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Nest (ferch Rhys) Fitzwalter (abt. 1085 - aft. 1136)

Nest "Princess of Dinefwr" Fitzwalter formerly ferch Rhys
Born about in Dinefwr Castle, Carmarthenshire, Walesmap [uncertain]
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Wife of — married about 1100 [location unknown]
Wife of — married before 1136 [location unknown]
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Died after after about age 51 in Caernarfonshire, Walesmap [uncertain]
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Biography

Nest (Sometimes Nesta) ferch Rhys ap Tewdwr of Wales, was born about 1085; the only legitimate daughter of Rhys ap Tewdwr King of Deheubarth, and Gwladus Powys. [1] [2]

Following her father's death in the battle of Brecon in 1093, Nest’s family was broken up, her eldest brother Gruffydd safely escaped to Ireland, her stepbrothers were killed and Nest herself became a hostage of King Henry I to whom she bore a son, Henry FitzRoy.

About 1100, Nest was married to Gerald of Windsor; Governor (Constable) of Pembroke castle in Wales. They had at least four children: sons - William, Maurice FitzGerald, and David FitzGerald and a daughter, Angharad who married William Barry of Manorbier. The politically strategic marriage of the Welsh Nesta and Norman Gerald might have been intended to smooth the Norman occupation of Wales but Gerald faced continual military opposition from the Welsh.

She brought him as her dower Carew (Near Milford Haven), and lands in Emlyn.[3]

Following Gerald's death, Nesta was married to Stephen de Marisco (Also Montmorency) , constable of Cardigan castle. [4][5]

The story of her kidnapping by Owain ap Cadwgan is the stuff of legend. [6] [7]

Nesta in Popular Fiction

Nesta (Princess of Deheubarth) was known as the most beautiful woman in Wales. She had many lovers.

In 1090 Nesta was sent to the court of Henry I as a hostage for the good conduct of her people. Henry I, attracted by her good looks, she had a male child Henry ‘ filius regis’ from him, and thus started the FitzHenry line. After years of peace she was returned to Geraldus and her people.

Nest returned home to find the kingdom of Dyfed under Norman tutelage. The Norman's were colonizing the former kingdom of Dyfed and establishing a colony of Flemish soldiers intermixed with English settlers in what is now Pembroke.

On Christmas 1108 Owain ap Cadwgan of Cardigan a cousin, came to visit Gerald and Nesta. He so lusted after her that he, that night, attacked the castle. According to the Brut y Tywysogion, Owain and his men infiltrated the couple's home (assumed by historians to be either Cilgerran Castle or Little Cenarch) and set fire to the buildings. When Gerald was woken by the noise, Nest advised him to escape by climbing out through the privy hole. Owain then seized Nest and her children. However, some sources suggest that she went with him willingly. After the "abduction", Owain ap Cadwgan carried her off and she had a male child from him Robert FitzStephen , thus starting the FitzStephens line.

This upset Henry I so much that the incident started a war. Gerald's influence was such that Owain and his father soon lost much of their territory of Powys as a result of Owain's actions. Owain himself was obliged to go into exile in Ireland. When he returned, in 1116, Gerald hunted him down and killed him. The "Annals of Cambria" record 1116 as the date of Owain's death.

The date of her death is unknown, but she lived until well after 1136

novelist Tracy Warr has a trilogy planned, telling the story of Nest and Gerald -
Conquest l - Daughter of the Last King by Tracey Warr Impress 2016
Conquest ll - The Drowned Court by Tracey Warr Impress 2017
Conquest lll - in preparation

Research Notes

Children of Nest[8]

Children by Gerald Fitzwalter
William Fitzgerald
Maurice FitzGerald
David FitzGerald
Angharad de Windsor
Gwladys de Windsor. Not in all sources. Married Cogan.
Children by Stephen de Marisco
Robert FitzStephen (abt.1135-abt.1183)
(Steven previously had several daughters married to the lords de Barry, de Carew, de Cogan, and others). [citation needed]
Children by Henry I
Probable
Henry FitzRoy (1105-1157) See notes on his profile
Disputed
Robert (FitzRoy) de Caen (1090-1147) See notes on his profile

In recent years, Nest has been given two plausible but likely wrong children by her abductor Owain ie Llywelyn and Einion.

She had potentially fourteen children, with no reliable dates of their births or their deaths. Four of her children by Gerald are variously documented. She had a son by William Hait, (the Constable of Pembroke), William Lord of St. Clears. She also had a son, Robert Fitz Stephen, by Stephen, the Constable of Cardigan, whom she had married after Gerald’s death. While their birth dates may not be reliably documented, they feature prominently in history. There were four further children by fathers unknown, plus the possibility that Nest also had two sons by Owain.[9]


Sources

  1. "Rhys ap Tewdwr was a direct descendant of Hywel Dda, and he assumed his birthright as in 1079. About 1080, he married Gwladys ferch Rhiwallon ap Cynfyn,[1] a niece of Bleddyn ap Cynfyn and first-cousin of Cadwgan ap Bleddyn."
  2. #Wolcott
  3. Old Pembroke families in the ancient county palatine of Pembroke by Owen, Henry, 1846-1919 Publication date 1902 Page 12
  4. Library Ireland : A Compendium of Irish Biography - Robert FitzStephen by Alfred Web pub: 1878
  5. Debrett's peerage of England, Scotland and Ireland.by John Debrett Publication date 1800 [https://archive.org/details/debrettspeerage04debrgoog/page/894/mode/2up Page 894
  6. Wikipedia : Owain ap Cadwgan
  7. The Guardian : This progenitor of Britishness has been denied her place in the pantheon by Simon Jenkins
  8. A compendium of Irish biography: comprising sketches of distinguished Irishmen, and of eminent persons connected with Ireland by office or by their writings by Webb, Alfred, 1834-1908 Publication date 1878 Page 359 Nesta
  9. University of Notre Dame ‘The Helen of Wales’: Nest Ferch Rhys ap Tewdwr, a Shaper of History (Part 1), Part 2

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I've counted her for the third time between my ancestors, I think she had a hard time, as many women of her times, if you go further back women had more to say. It won't to surprise me to find her more times, as you go back you will find many ancestors repeated through different lines.
So I've been studying this particular woman for quite some time now and somehow I'm only just now finding her here even though I'm on this site everyday. But something that I find completely shocking is the choice to use the word lovers in reference to all of the men who raped her. While she might have been the most beautiful woman in Ireland, a lover is a person that someone willingly chooses to have sex with in a consensual relationship. The majority of the men who are counted as her lovers, including her cousins are people who in the very next statement took her as a hostage or attacked the castle so that they could rape her. I just feel like history should have accurate recountings of these events. Especially if someone is intending on writing a book about her. It's just honoring the truth of this woman's life. She was known as the harlot Queen because history has a common occurrence of recording women in negative light. Some would argue that even the acts of a harlot would be deemed as consensual. History itself records the majority of her encounters is being non-consensual yet in the same turn records it and frames her encounters as having been with lovers. Lovers are not rapists.
posted on Ferch Rhys ap Tewdr-1 (merged) by Jeff White
You posted very kind words for this woman, It's the third time between my ancestors, Thank you
Conquest III - The Anarchy was released last year. [1]
posted on Verch Rhys-5 (merged) by Aaron Gullison
edited by Aaron Gullison
I would check this person with https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Iorwerth-7

Both are listed as being involved with King Henry (I & II), it appears that some coordination is required.

posted on Verch Rhys-5 (merged) by C (Gervais) Anonymous
Nesta Boert and Princess Nest were two completely different people. And they lived decades apart from each other. Princess Nest was kidnapped by King Henry I held captive and bore him a child. Nesta Boert was a consort of King Henry II. She was living well into the 1200s while Princess Nest died sometime in between 1136 and 1150.

They just happen to share the same name but they came from two completely different families. That's the reasoning behind Nesta being called Nesta of Wales because it was the distinction between her and Princess Nest.

posted by Jeff White
Hi; what are the sources for this profile?
posted on Verch Rhys-5 (merged) by Roger Travis Jr.