John Thames Sr (abt. 1740 - abt. 1826)

Born about 1740 in Beaufort, North Carolina [uncertain]

Descendants

Died about 1826 at about age 86 in Sumter, South Carolina, United States

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Biography

John Thames Sr was born about 1740-1743; it is not certain exactly where he was born, but it was probably at Beaufort County or Craven County NC, where his father Thomas was living in that general time period.

John is named in his father's will. He and his brother Amos received 220 acres as their legacy from their father Thomas.

John, along with his brothers Amos and Thomas, went to South Carolina.

John died about 1826 at Sumter Co SC. He did not leave a will.

Research Notes

John married Martha B (Brunson) West in 1762 in Bladen, North Carolina. (This is not proven and needs a source citation. It should only be used as a clue.)

22 Mar 1762 - Cumberland Co NC - John Thimes witnessed a deed between John Newberry and Elizabeth his wife to John Dukemineer, witnesses Jesse Newberry and John Thimes. Acknowledge by John Newberry at Elizabeth at court Aug 1763.^[1] John and Elizabeth were his grandparents.

11 Oct 1766 - Sometime before 11 Oct 1766, John and his brother Amos sold the 220 acres they inherited from their father in 1758 to John Legett, because on that date John Legett and his wife Rachael sold the land to Amos and John's sister Marcy and her husband James Jackson.^[2]

25 Nov 1768 - Cumberland Co NC - John Newberry and Elizabeth his wife to Archibald McKay, 533 acres on both sides of Cross Creek, borders John Timm's line, and along the line of Maltsby and Timms, most of a 640 acres patent to the said John Newberry dated 1766, who sold 107 acres to Maultsby & Tims. Witnesses John Brownlow and Jean Ward, proved Jan 1769 by John Brownlow.^[3] Caution: Records seem to show John was already in South Carolina by this date. The name on the deed was probably mis-transcribed and should have read "Joseph," since Joseph was the one who had a large quantity of land in Cross Creek, and there is no record of John acquiring land in that or any other area in North Carolina.

The grants below are in the name of John Thomas and Tim and are in Craven Co South Carolina, but additional research is needed to determine if they were this John Thames.

• 20 Sep 1764 - John Thomas submits his Memorial for 250 acres of land in Craven Co South Carolina, 250 acres in Craven County bounded on all sides by vacant Land.^[4]Grant Book 11 p 594^[5]

• 13 Sep 1766 - John Thomas submits his Memorial for 800 acres of land in Craven Co SC^[6]Grant Book 13 p 459 to John Thomas Sr.^[7]

• 26 Apr 1769 - John Thomas Sr entered his Memorial for 100 acres of land on Hays Mill Creek surrounded by vacant land in Craven Co SC.^[8]Grant Book 18 p 175.^[9]]

• 2 Aug 1771 - John Tim entered his memorial for 100 acres of land in St Marks Parish in Craven County, on the north side of the Spring of Black River and surrounded on all sides by vacant land, the land having been surveyed on 2 Jul and granted 12 July of the same year. Isham Moore was the Deputy Surveyor. Black River runs through what is now Sumter, Clarendon and Williamsburg Counties, before emptying into the Great Pee Dee River.^[10] It is highly probable that this is "our" John Thames, since the location is correct.

Craven County later became Camden District, from which Sumter County was formed.

1800 Clarendon Co Sumter Dist, SC census for John Thames Senr:^[11]

1 - Male <10
2 - Males 10-15
2 - Males 16-25
1 - Males 45+
2 - Females 10-15
1 - Female 16-25
1 - Female 45+

In 1823, John Thames Sr sold to Robert and James Thames 350 acres on Sammy Swamp, a tract originally granted to John Thames. Witnesses were Michael Haslett and Richard Thames, Levy F Rhame JP^[12] James was John's son, as proven by the 1824 and 1833 deeds discussed below. Robert was probably John's son as well, but as yet there is no paper trail to prove it.

In 1824, John made a deed of gift of cattle to his daughter-in-law Fereby Thames.^[13]

A deed dated 1833 shows that Fereby was the wife of James Thames.^[14] James, therefore, was John's son.

John died about 1826 in Sumter Co, South Carolina, United States.

Sources

1. ↑ Cumberland Co NC Deed Book 2 page 257
2. ↑ Bladen Co NC Deed Book p 337
3. ↑ Cumberland Co NC Deed Book 3 p 316
4. ↑ SC Memorials, Book 6 p 327
5. ↑ [https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSK7-13F7-Z?i=587&cat=473372 Grant Book 11 p 594
6. ↑ SC Memorials, Book 9 p 117
7. ↑ [https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS73-SS2D-V?i=586&cat=473372 Grant Book 13 p 459
8. ↑ SC Memorials, Book 8 p 424
9. ↑ [https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSR8-ZN21?i=119&cat=473372 Grant Book 18 p 175.
10. ↑ SC Colonial Land Memorials, Book 11 p 28
11. ↑ 1800 US Federal Census, Clarendon Co, Sumter Dist, SC, familysearch.org film 181424, image 182
12. ↑ Sumter Co (Sumter Dist) Deed Book G p 54[1]
13. ↑ Sumter Co SC Deed Book G p 23
14. ↑ Sumter Co SC Deed Book I p 143.

• Year: 1800; Census Place: Sumter, Sumter District, South Carolina; Series: M32; Roll: 49; Page: 602; Image: 182; Family History Library Film: 181424; 1800 United States Federal Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA; Original data: Second Census of the United States, 1800. NARA microfilm publication M32 (52 rolls). Records of the Bureau of the Census, Record Group 29. National Archives, Washington, D.C.
• Year: 1810; Census Place: Sumter, Sumter, South Carolina; Roll: 61; Page: 483; Image: 00393; Family History Library Film: 0181420; Source Information, 1810 United States Federal Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Images reproduced by FamilySearch.; Original data: Third Census of the United States, 1810. (NARA microfilm publication M252, 71 rolls). Bureau of the Census, Record Group 29. National Archives, Washington, D.C.
• 1820 U S Census; Census Place: Sumter, South Carolina; Page: 121; NARA Roll: M33_121; Image: 219; Source Information 1820 United States Federal Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Images reproduced by FamilySearch.; Original data: Fourth Census of the United States, 1820. (NARA microfilm publication M33, 142 rolls). Records of the Bureau of the Census, Record Group 29. National Archives, Washington, D.C.