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John Tompkins

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John Tompkins
Born in Englandmap
Husband of — married [date unknown] [location unknown]
Husband of — married [date unknown] in Edles Borough, Buckinghamshire, Englandmap
Husband of — married in Edlesborough,Buckinghamshire,Englandmap
Husband of — married in Salem, Massachusettsmap
Died in Salem, Essex, Massmap
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Merge caution

Torrey records a different John Tomkins also of Salem, whose second wife was Mary Reed (1653-).

Recent research (see below) indicates that this John Tomkins was not from Edlesborough and his wife Margaret was not Margaret Goodman. Most genealogies will, however, include those two items, and it is the same person in Massachussets, but not the contemporary John Tomkins who remained in Edlesborough, England.

Also this John Tompkins was a different person than the John Tompkins of Concord who settled in Eastchester. The two are confused in traditional genealogies because of a speculation by James Savage (A genealogical dictionary of the first settlers of New England).

Biography

John Tompkins was born in England, about (say) 1610, and a John Tomkins married Margaret Goodman at Edlesborough, England on August 27, 1632, but this John Tompkins was in Massachussets by March 20, 1636 when he was promised admission to the Salem church upon obtaining release somewhere else. He received a grant of land in Salem on August 22, 1663. The Tompkins were not always in harmony with the leaders of the community. In 1653 John Tompkins wife was fined for wearing a silk hood, and John was fined in 1679 for refusing to take the oath as tythingman. He married second Mary Read. An inventory of his estate was made June 30, 1681 and administration was granted to his widow Mary. His children are mentioned in this order: Nathaniel, John, Sarah, Elizabeth, Mary, Deborah and Priscilla Tompkins.

The identity of John Tompkins first wife is problematic. Matthew Tompkins, a researcher in England examined all the Tomkins entries in the Edlesborough registry for the 17th century. He reported "There was clearly at least one John Tomkins living in Edlesborough at the time when the American one was living in Massachusetts." and that "I think the only reasonable interpretation of the entries in 1632, 1633/4, 1655 and 1664/5 is that they all relate to the same man. If so, then it is certain that the Massachusetts John did not come from Edlesborough, and his wife was not Margaret Goodman."[1]

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Sources

  • Little Compton Families: From Records Compiled by Benjamin Franklin Wilbour, (Baltimore, Maryland: Clearfield Co, Fifth edition, 1997) Vol. II, p. 678.
  • New England Marriages Prior to 1700 by Clarence Almon Torrey (Boston: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2011) Vol. III, p. 1528. TOMPKINS, John (-1681) & 1/wf Margaret GOODMAN (-1672); Adlesborough, Bucks, 27 Aug 1632; Salem. TOMKINS, John (-1681) & 2/wf Mary (____) READ, w. Thomas?; Sep 1673; Salem.

Components

  • This person was created through the import of Davidson.GED on 19 March 2011.

Biography

John was born in 1608 in Edlesborough, Buckinghamshire, England.[2][3] John Thompkins married Margaret Goodman, daughter of John Goodman, on August 1632, in Edlesborough, Buckinghamshire, England. He married the widow Mary Read September 1673 in Salem, Massachusetts.[4] He died in Salem June 23, 1684 at age 75.[5] [6]

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Sources

  • Source: S587 New England Marriages Prior to 1700, by Clarence Almon Torrey (Boston: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2011) Vol. III, p. 1528. TOMPKINS, John (-1681) & 1/wf Margaret GOODMAN (-1672); Adlesborough, Bucks, 27 Aug 1632; Salem {EIHC 17:261; Reg. 61:151; Snow-Estes 2:113; Tubbs (1956) 20c; Mendell 106; Randall Anc. 434, 440, 446; Stevens-Miller 248; TAG 22:209; Brown-Parker 188; Salem 1:126; Buckinghamshire Mar. 1:30; Essex Ant. 5:173; Farr Anc. 282; Felton 245; Silsbee 7; John Marsh Gen. 9; Bond Anc. 140; Tingley-Meyers 101, 167} TOMPKINS, John (-1681) & 2/wf Mary (____) READ, w Thomas?; Sep 1673; Salem {Salem 1:426; Felton 244; Silsbee 7; EIHC 17:261; Farr Anc. 282}
  • Source: S589 Ancestors & Cousins from New England, Virginia, Scotland, England, & Germany, Url: http://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p2375.htm#i71393 by Marlyn Lewis
  • Source: S591 A History of Salem Massachusetts, by Sidney Perley (Sidney Perley, Salem, Mass., 1924)
  • Audrey Neva, firsthand knowledge. See the Changes page for the details of edits by Audrey and others.
  1. Rootsweb.ancestry.com Tompkins discussion list Subject: Ralph and John Tompkins: from Edlesborough? Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 11:30:42 -0000
  2. Source: #S591 JOHN TOMPKINS, yeoman; married, first, Margaret Goodman Aug. 27, 1632, in Edlesborogh, Bucks, England; she died in Salem July 18, 1672; married second, Mary Read Sept. __, 1673; died June 23, 1681; his wife Mary survived him; children; I. Nathaniel; living in 1682; 2. Hannah, baptized Feb. 10, 1638-9; died young; 3. Elizabeth, baptized may 19, 1639; died young; 4. Hannah, baptized Feb. 21, 1640-1; married Hugh Joanes; 5. Sarah, baptized Jan. I, 1642-3; married John Waters; 6. John, baptized Feb. 16, 1644-5; 7. Elizabeth, born Nov. 29, 1646; 8. Mary, baptized April 19, 1649; married John Felton; 9. Deborah, baptized June 8, 1651; married Nathaniel Silsby; 10. Prescilla; married Samuel Marsh.; Vol I, pl 426
  3. Source: #S589
  4. Source: #S587 TOMKINS, John (-1681) & 2/wf Mary (____) READ, w Thomas?; Sep 1673; Salem. p. 1528. (Note that Torrey also records a marriage of TOMPKINS, John and Mary REED on November 20, 1683, in Salem, who were evidently someone else.)
  5. Source: #S591
  6. Entered by Audrey Neva, Oct 17, 2011

Acknowledgments

Thank you to Patricia Sage for creating WikiTree profile Thompkins-31 through the import of SAGE and beyond_2013-02-08.ged on Feb 13, 2013.

Click to the Changes page for the details of edits by Patricia and others.

  • Thank you to Bennett Rockney for creating WikiTree profile Tompkins-620 through the import of Rockney GEDCOM.ged on Feb 16, 2013.

Click to the Changes page for the details of edits by Bennett and others.









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Collaboration

On August 27, 2014 Timothy Wilder wrote:

Before a merge, composite characters such as Thompkins-21, who combines individuals from two unrelated families, need to be removed from the children list and disposed of somehow.


On August 21, 2014 Bennett Rockney wrote:

Tompkins-620 and Tompkins-106 appear to represent the same person because: families - children and siblings and spouses - appear to be the same.


On August 21, 2014 Bennett Rockney wrote:

Thompkins-22 and Tompkins-106 appear to represent the same person because: Families - parents, spouses, siblings - are the same. Birthdates are very close.


On July 22, 2014 Timothy Wilder wrote:

Thompkins-22 and Tompkins-620 are not ready to be merged because: Different mothers and born a generation apart.


On July 9, 2014 Pat Politsky wrote:

Thompkins-31 and Thompkins-22 appear to represent the same person because: We seem to have the same Thompkins line from John. My line goes from John to Ralph to Martha.


On April 7, 2014 Timothy Wilder wrote:

Tompkins-620 and Tompkins-106 are not ready to be merged because: The mothers and birth dates are different, and that needs to be resolved. Also the son of Tompkins-106, John Tompkins Tompkins-105, is a composite of John Tompkins of Salem and John Tompkins of Concord, Fairfield and Eastchester.




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