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Humphrey (Tuchet) Audley (abt. 1435 - 1471)

Sir Humphrey Audley formerly Tuchet aka Touchet
Born about in Heleigh, Staffordshire, Englandmap
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Husband of — married 21 Mar 1464 in Englandmap
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Died at about age 36 in Battle of Tewkesbury, Gloucestershire, Englandmap
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Biography

European Aristocracy
Sir Humphrey Tuchet was a member of the aristocracy in England.

Sir Humphrey Touchet (b. c. 1435; taken prisoner at the Battle of Tewkesbury and executed 6 May 1471) was the son of John Touchet, 5th Baron Audley and his second wife, Eleanor Holland. He mar. Elizabeth (Courtenay) Luttrell (widow of his cousin Sir James Luttrell, of Dunster, co. Somerset (b. c. 1426; beh. after the Battle of St Albans Feb 1460/1); she mar. (3) aft. 1472 Thomas Mallet, and (4) aft. 1474 Robert Carey), dau. of Sir Philip Courtenay, of Powderham, co. Devon, by his wife Elizabeth Hungerford, dau. by his first wife of Walter [Hungerford], 1st Baron Hungerford. They had 1 son (Sir John) and 3 daughters (Jane; Elizabeth, wife of John Sydenham, Esq; & Philippe, wife of Richard Hadley).[1]

Humphrey was a supporter of the House of Lancaster and fought at the battle of Tewkesbury, 4 May 1471, was taken prisoner, and tried before Richard, Duke of Gloucester and the Duke of Norfolk. He was executed in the Market Square on the 6th and was buried under the pavement in the Chapel of St Nicolas, in the Abbey Church of St Mary the Virgin.

Research Notes

According to the author of Richard III: His Life and Character, It would suggest that Sir Humphrey Tuchet/Touchet (also known henceforth as Audley), was a traitor. He was forgiven for those acts and then was found again for treason. This is a good possible explanation to why the surname would hence change. Known in times that what the family would call an embarassment would be removed to stop the family from being further tarnished. Not a 100% sure that this is the accurate assumption of the surname change but after reading multiple volumes of incidences concerning Sir Humphrey, the CLN would be Audley. However, with this said, it does not show supporting evidence that the line continued to use Audley as the surname. It just shows that Sir Humphrey was known as Sir Humphrey Audley as well as Sir Humphrey Tuchet/Touchet. The intent of the offsprings' LNAB does not show if it was to be Tuchet/Touchet or Audley.

Sources

  1. Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. IV, p. 219

Books

  1. Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families. Douglas Richardson, Kimball G. Everingham. Douglas Richardson. 2013. Vol III, pg 646. Vol V, pg 198.
  2. Dunster: A Castle At War. Jim Lee. Memoirs Publishing. 2014. pg 76
  3. The Red Rose and the White: or, The story of the fifty years' war between the houses of York and Lancaster. G. Routledge and Sons. 1880. Oxford University. pg 135
  4. Richard III: His Life and Character. Smith. 1906. University of Iowa. pg 76
  5. Transactions- Bristol and Gloucestershire Archaeological Society, Volume 12. The Society. 1888. pg 48
  6. Barnet 1471: Death of a Kingmaker. David Clark. Pen and Sword. 2007. Chapter Four.

Websites

  1. Wikipedia: James Tuchet, 5th Baron Audley
  2. Biography of Sir John Sydenham
  3. Battle of Tewkesbury
  4. Tudor Place: Sir Humphrey Touchet
  5. Find a Grave
  6. Copy of the will, dated 12 January 1527 and proved June 6, 1532 of Sir John Audley

Online Genealogies

  1. The Genealogy of Everette Clarence Glenn and Muriel Ruth Brown: HUMPHREY TOUCHET de AUDLEY

Free Spaces on WikiTree

  1. The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom (The St. Catherine Press, London, 1910) Vol. 1, Page 341: note 1: "His (James) sons by his 2nd wife took the name of Audley. They were (1) Sir Humphrey A., slain at Tewkesbury 1471, said to be ancestor of the Audley family of Norfolk..."

Acknowledgements

  • WikiTree profile DeAudley-4 created through the import of Paula's family 5-28-2011.GED on May 29, 2011 by Paula Marksman.




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Visitations of Norfolk 1563, 1589, 1613 gives his name as Awdeley and his father as James Toochett https://archive.org/details/visitacionievisi32ryew/page/10/mode/2up this may be a more reliable source than wikipedia?
posted by Peter Exley
I have compromised as to put Audley as another surname that he is known by. I am going to continue research into finding the correct CLN before changing anything else. Please respect that as I want to make sure that his profile is done and done correctly without second guesses as I am sure all of us hope to do with any profile that we work on.

Thank you.

Dodie

posted by [Living Hoskins]
Apart from the written works of those that researched, yet published no viable evidence to support research, of Humphrey states that his name is actually Audley instead of Touchet/Tuchet? Why would a prominent family change their surname for no reason? Especially since the surname of Audley was established by Thomas Audley, Baron Audley who I assume bares no immediate descent to the Touchets in such a fashion as father/brother/etc as Thomas Audley bore no children.
posted by [Living Hoskins]
Apart from the Wikipedia page and The Genealogy of Everett Clarenence Green, neither of which are suitable sources for pre-1500 profiles, every other source gives his surname as Audley. What are the sources that name him Touchet?
posted by John Atkinson
Wikipedia page for father clearly states name is Sir Humphrey Touchet. Audley is not mentioned except for father's correct title. Please do not change information without listing a better source and site correctly what the source states. Thank you.

Dodie

posted by [Living Hoskins]
Touchet de Audley-1 and Tuchet-31 appear to represent the same person because: Tuchet is the more correct LNAB, but I believe the correct one should be Touchet. According to Douglas Richardson: born circa 1438 at Carlton, Middleton & Little Whelnetham, Suffolk, England and died on 6 May 1471 at Battle of Tewkesbury, Gloucestershire, England. Cause of death: Beheaded

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