Ansyl William Tryon (abt. 1863 - 1943)

Born about Aug 1863 in Binghamton, Broome, New York, United States [uncertain]

Ancestors

Descendants

Died 31 Dec 1943 at about age 80 in Williamsville, Erie, New York, United States

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Biography

Ansyl was born in or near Binghamton, NY. He shares the same given name as his father, though name order is often varied. Reported age varies considerably with birth year estimates from 1857-1866.

The family is found in Luzerne County, Pennsylvania by 1870. This is the first record we have for Ansyl. He is reported as 8 years of age, so a birth year closer to 1862 is likely.

Ansel appears in a directory in 1884 in Scranton, PA. His mother and sister are found there in 1880.

Ansel is probably in Lockport , NY in 1887.

We estimate a marriage of 1888 to Jane Stephenson, likely in Buffalo, NY, based on birth of child Edna.

There is a period of time where he is estranged from wife and children. He may be living under a different identity "Alexander" during this period, probably in NYC.

He returns to Buffalo, NY and resides with wife and family until she dies. Later we see him living with the families of his several daughters.

He dies in Williamsville, NY in 1943.

Brickwall Notes

I place the brickwall category and note here, and not on the two records linked as parents.

This ancestor is fairly well documented in terms of his wife Jane Stephenson and their children and descendants, but otherwise I have not been able to determine clearly his family of origin.

Even the order of his names is uncertain for me - Ansyl William or William Ansyl. He appears to have gone by the two names in different contexts.

For the mother - I am not certain of her first name. Mary, Anna or Roxy, or Roxanna. Her maiden name is only identified on this ancestor's death record and I am not confident of the data there. So her maiden name may or may not be Herrick. I have no other records to substantiate this.

The death record of this ancestor is attached. This is the only vital event document I have found.

Though the death record gives birth as 1866, and likewise the headstone gives same. Census records and a prison record indicate birth possibly as early as 1860.

As for the father: The death record of this ancestor indicates his name is also Ansel, but I am not 100% confident in this record as it was recorded by a non family member in a hospice like facility. Among the details which concern me in this document is the contention that the father is English and the mother Irish. I take it to more plausibly infer that they have that heritage than that they were born overseas.

I have found several contemporaneous Ansel Tryon's and have been trying to research them and document them as best I can so as to distinguish them from each other and to determine if one set of records is for one person or two. I have been documenting this in a note on the Space:Tryon_Family_Mysteries page - under "a tale of two or three Ansel's. I suppose however I should extend the net and include the possiblity that father's given name is Anson rather than Ansel. Also - it may have been a middle name used as proper name...

A related mystery: there are records for an Alexander William Tryon and a license to marry in 1906, NYC. That record is indexed at familysearch.org and indicates father of same name, mother of same maiden name, and same location and approximate birth year as this ancestor. That record may either be a sibling, or it may be an alias for this Ansyl who leaves his wife and children for a number of years. This is another family mystery, also documented on that page.

Which Name is First?

I have left two names in the "first name" category for now, as I don't know for certain, at birth which name was his first name and which his middle name. In his life I find the name order different at several times. He is however. buried under the order "Ansyl William Tryon."

As such, when searching for records I have done searches for both Ansel/Ansyl and William as the first name. Some records in Buffalo come up with William as the name used, perhaps this was for business purposes.

Another possible son revealed through genetic testing?

Genetic testing has shown a strong relationship between the known Descendants of Ansyl and the known descendants of Aloysius Charles Evers. Investigations into the genetic possibilities is ongoing, but to date the best explanation is that Ansyl was the biological father of Aloysius.

Aloysius was conceived before his mother Katherine Adams married William Aloyius Evers, who always represented himself as the father of Aloysius.

Location in 1880 is undetermined

Previously I viewed this 1880 record as a possible record for Ansyl (going as William). However, as there appears a William L Tryon in Middleburgh in 1892, it seems unlikely that these are the same person. William L Tryon Tryon-2245 is the son of Amos and Lucinda.

These should be for William son of Amos:

• "United States Census, 1880," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MZF5-3JT : 20 August 2017), William Tryon in entry for Henry Bust, 1880; citing enumeration district ED 189, sheet 203C, NARA microfilm publication T9 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d), roll 0931; FHL microfilm 1,254,931.

• "New York State Census, 1892," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQ9W-N4H : 8 August 2017), William L Tryon, 1892; citing Middleburgh, E.D. 01, county offices, New York; FHL microfilm 868,883.

However- is this 1880 record for the same William L?

• "United States Census, 1880," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MZF5-3JT : 20 August 2017), William Tryon in entry for Henry Bust, 1880; citing enumeration district ED 189, sheet 203C, NARA microfilm publication T9 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d), roll 0931; FHL microfilm 1,254,931.

I leave Ansyl's 1880 location as an open question. His mother and sister are in Scranton, PA in 1880 (need to find source for that again!). At some point he heads from PA to NYS, winding up in Buffalo where he marries and has children and dies.

Birth

Birth reports range from 1857-1866. His death certificate and grave marker indicate 1866.

Birth:

ABT 1857

New York, USA

Census record ages lead us to the following birth year estimates:

1870, reported age 8 ... 1861-1862

1880 (not found)

1892 (NYS) ...

1900, reported age 37, specifies Aug 1863. And marriage estimated in 1888.

1910, reported age 50, --- 1860.

1920, reported age 60, --- 1860.

1930, reported age 70, --- 1860.

1940, reported age 80, --- 1860.

Birth:

Date: AUG 1863

Place: Binghamton, Broome, New York, USA

Death

Death: Age: 77 (est)

31 DEC 1943 Williamsville, Erie, New York, USA.

Place: Buffalo, Erie, New York, USA

Burial

Kenmore, Erie, New York, USA

Residence

1870

South Abington, Luzerne, Pennsylvania, United States^[1]

1884

Scranton, Pennsylvania, USA^[2]

1886

In the 1886 Scranton, PA directory there is a directory entry for Ansely Tryon, laborer, living at 506 Prospect avenue. No Tryons in the 1887 or 1888 Scranton directories.

This is likely Ansyl, either still in Scranton or temporarily returned there. He is likely in Buffalo, NY and married around 1888.

1886

Scranton, Lackawanna, Pennsylvania, USA. ^[3]

439 Penn Ave.

1887

Lockport, Niagara, New York, USA

1889

Buffalo, Erie, New York, USA.

1892 Residence: Age: 30. 347 Fulton. Carpenter.

Buffalo, Erie, New York, USA

1893 Residence: 538 Perry

Buffalo, Erie, New York, USA^[4]

1896 Residence: 385 Myrtle

Buffalo, Erie, New York, USA^[5]

1899 Residence: 57 Efner

Buffalo, Erie, New York, USA^[6]

1900

Buffalo, Erie, New York, USA. ^[7]

Buffalo Ward 5, Erie, New York

1904 Residence: 152 Bush

Buffalo, Erie, New York, USA^[8]

1905

Buffalo, Erie, New York, USA. ^[9]

1905 Residence: Head of House

Buffalo Ward 24, Erie, New York, USA

1907 Residence: 332 Breckenridge

Buffalo, Erie, New York, USA

1910 Residence:

Buffalo Ward 20, Erie, New York^[10]

1912, 1913, 1914 Residence: 114 Arkansas

Buffalo, Erie, New York, USA^[11]

1915 Residence: 186 Grant Age: 52 Head of House

Date: 1 JUN 1915

Buffalo Ward 22, Erie, New York, United States^[12]

1916, 1917, 1918, 1921, 1925 Residence: 186 Grant

Buffalo, Erie, New York, USA^[13]

1920 Residence:

Buffalo Ward 22, Erie, New York^[14]

1921 Residence: 186 Grant

Buffalo, Erie, New York, USA^[15]

1922

Buffalo, Erie, New York, USA. ^[16]

1925 Residence: 146 Davidson ave Age: 65

Relation to Head of House: Father-in-law

Date: 1 JUN 1925

Buffalo Ward 20, Erie, New York, United States^[17]

1925, 1926, 1927, 1930, 1933 Residence: 146 Davidson

Buffalo, Erie, New York, USA

1930 Residence: 146 Davidson

Buffalo, Erie, New York, USA^[18]

1935 Residence:

Buffalo, Erie, New York, USA^[19]

1940 Residence: Age: 80 Marital Status: Widowed;

Relation to Head of House: Father-in-law

Date: 1 APR 1940

Buffalo, Erie, New York, USA^[20]

1942 Residence:

Buffalo, Erie, New York, USA^[21]

Residences missing dates:

Residence: Carpenter. Residing at 1034 Bouck Ave. (lost the date associated with this one) (From directory)

Residence: 48 Hastings ave, Buffalo, NY - also from a directory. Date has to be recovered.

Marriage

I have not found a marriage record. if it is the case that he was not raised Roman Catholic, which is my assumption based on where his mother was reportedly buried, Ansyl would not have been married in the Catholic church unless there was some dispensation or a conversion.

Marriage date is derived from the report on the 1900 census and in terms of timing of the birth of the eldest child.

Marriage:

Date: 1888^[22]

Sources

1. ↑ 1870; Census Place: South Abington, Luzerne, Pennsylvania; Roll: M593_; Page: ; Image: . Data: Text: Birth date: abt 1862 Birth place: New York Residence date: 1870 Residence place: South Abington, Luzerne, Pennsylvania, United States
2. ↑ Scranton, PA Directory
3. ↑ Scranton, PA Directory
4. ↑ Buffalo, NY Directory
5. ↑ Buffalo, NY Directory
6. ↑ Buffalo, NY Directory
7. ↑ 1900; Census Place: Buffalo Ward 5, Erie, New York; Roll: 1025; Page: 7B; Enumeration District: 0044; FHL microfilm: 1241025 marriage date: 1888 residence date: 1900 residence place: Buffalo Ward 5, Erie, New York, USA birth date: 1866 birth place: New York Name: Ansyl W Tryon
8. ↑ Buffalo NY Directory
9. ↑ New York State Archives; Albany, New York; State Population Census Schedules, 1905; Election District: E.D. 04; City: Buffalo Ward 24; County: Erie; Page: 54 Name: Ansyl William Tryon residence date: 1905 residence place: Buffalo Ward 24, Erie, New York, USA birth date: abt 1860 birth place: New York
10. ↑ 1910; Census Place: Buffalo Ward 20, Erie, New York; Roll: T624_947; Page: 8B; Enumeration District: 194; Image: 54. Data: Text: Birth date: abt 1860 Birth place: New York Residence date: 1910 Residence place: Buffalo Ward 20, Erie, New York
11. ↑ Buffalo NY Directories
12. ↑ New York State Archives; Albany, New York; State Population Census Schedules, 1915; Election District: 06; Assembly District: 02; City: Buffalo Ward 22; County: Erie; Page: 11
13. ↑ Buffalo, NY Directory
14. ↑ 1920; Census Place: Buffalo Ward 22, Erie, New York; Roll: T625_1107; Page: 1B; Enumeration District: 208; Image: . Data: Text: Birth date: abt 1860 Birth place: New York Residence date: 1920 Residence place: Buffalo Ward 22, Erie, New York
15. ↑ Buffalo, NY Directory
16. ↑ Buffalo, NY Directory residence date: 1922 residence place: Buffalo, New York, USA Name: Ansyl W Tryon
17. ↑ New York State Archives; Albany, New York; State Population Census Schedules, 1925; Election District: 16; Assembly District: 07; City: Buffalo Ward 20; County: Erie; Page: 50
18. ↑ 1930; Census Place: Buffalo, Erie, New York; Roll: 1431; Page: 6B; Enumeration District: 477; Image: 351.0. Data: Text: Birth date: abt 1890 Birth place: New York Residence date: 1930 Residence place: Buffalo, Erie, New York
19. ↑ 1940; Census Place: Buffalo, Erie, New York; Roll: T627_2834; Page: 2A; Enumeration District: 64-361
20. ↑ 1940; Census Place: Buffalo, Erie, New York; Roll: T627_2834; Page: 2A; Enumeration District: 64-361
21. ↑ Buffalo, NY Directory
22. ↑ 1900; US Census Buffalo Ward 5, Erie, New York; Roll: T623_1025; Page: 7B; Enumeration District: 44. Data: Text: Birth date: Aug 1863 Birth place: New York Marriage date: 1888 Marriage place: Residence date: 1900 Residence place: Buffalo Ward 5, Erie, New York

Open Sources

• "United States Census, 1870," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MZPP-G5P : 12 April 2016), Ansyl Tryon in household of A S Tryon, Pennsylvania, United States; citing p. 11, family 87, NARA microfilm publication M593 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.); FHL microfilm 552,863.

• "United States Census, 1900," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MSXW-8FY : accessed 18 February 2019), Ansel W Tryon, Election District 4 Buffalo city Ward 5, Erie, New York, United States; citing enumeration district (ED) 44, sheet 7B, family 135, NARA microfilm publication T623 (Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 1972.); FHL microfilm 1,241,025.

• "United States Census, 1910," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M542-W4J : accessed 18 February 2019), William A Tryon, Buffalo Ward 20, Erie, New York, United States; citing enumeration district (ED) ED 194, sheet 8B, family 199, NARA microfilm publication T624 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 1982), roll 947; FHL microfilm 1,374,960.

• "Ontario Deaths, 1869-1937 and Overseas Deaths, 1939-1947," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JKW4-SLX : 10 March 2018), Ansyl Tryon in entry for George Tryon, 30 Nov 1918; citing Hillier, Prince Edward, Ontario, Canada, 032778, Registrar General. Archives of Ontario, Toronto; FHL microfilm 1,862,885.

• "United States Census, 1920," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MJLM-59L : accessed 18 February 2019), Ansyl W Tryon, Buffalo Ward 22, Erie, New York, United States; citing ED 208, sheet 1B, line 85, family 27, NARA microfilm publication T625 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 1992), roll 1107; FHL microfilm 1,821,107.

• "United States Census, 1930," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X7CT-2LQ : accessed 18 February 2019), William A Tryon in household of Cornelius K O'Brien, Buffalo (Districts 475-477), Erie, New York, United States; citing enumeration district (ED) ED 477, sheet 6B, line 84, family 123, NARA microfilm publication T626 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 2002), roll 1431; FHL microfilm 2,341,166.

• "United States Census, 1940," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KQ54-YKM : 14 March 2018), William T Ansyl in household of John Meisenburg, Ward 17, Buffalo, Buffalo City, Erie, New York, United States; citing enumeration district (ED) 64-361, sheet 2A, line 39, family 41, Sixteenth Census of the United States, 1940, NARA digital publication T627. Records of the Bureau of the Census, 1790 - 2007, RG 29. Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 2012, roll 2834.

• "Find A Grave Index," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QV2H-7P9K : 13 December 2015), Ansyl William Tryon, 1943; Burial, Kenmore, Erie, New York, United States of America, Mount Olivet Cemetery; citing record ID 65588549, Find a Grave, http://www.findagrave.com.