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John Turner (1693 - 1778)

John Turner
Born in Scituate, Plymouth, Province of Massachusetts Baymap
Ancestors ancestors
Husband of — married 5 Aug 1714 (to 6 Oct 1757) in Duxbury, Plymouth, Massachusetts Baymap
Husband of — married 15 Mar 1769 (to 20 Mar 1778) in Scituate, Plymouth, Massachusetts Baymap
Descendants descendants
Died at age 85 in Scituate, Plymouth, Massachusetts, United Statesmap
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Biography

John Turner was born Jan 1, 1692/3 in Scituate, Massachusetts.[1]

John married Mercy Bartlett "of Duxbury" on Aug 5, 1714 in Duxbury [recorded in Scituate], Massachusetts. [2]

John married "Mrs. Mary Vinal in Scituate on March 15, 1769. [2]

John Turner died in his 86th year on 20 Mar 1778 in Scituate,[3] and was buried in the Second Parish Cemetery in Scituate, which is now part of Norwell.[4]

John and Mercy (Bartlett) Turner had the following (6) children:[5]

  1. Grace, baptized 9 Oct. 1712; m. Ichabod Soule, m. John Jones
  2. Bartlett, baptized 12 Oct. 1718; died before 27 Jan. 1775
  3. Michael, b. ca. 1721; died 19 Aug. 1744
  4. Deborah, b. ca. 1724; m. Samuel Oakman
  5. Malzar, b. ca. 1727; died 7 May 1750

"Perhaps they had also sons RIAL and JOHN (see TAG 36:74-9). Rial's undated gravestone is close to the stones of other members of this family and he may be a son (MD32:111)."[6]

Probate

The will of John Turner of Scituate, yeoman was dated 27 January 1775 with a codicil dated 13 December 1777 and proved on 1 August 1778 in Plymouth. He mentions his wife Mary (executor), and his children, Mary, Lucy, Ruth, and Rachel (Rachel was not born at the time of the will, she is mentioned in the codicil), Grace, wife of John Jones, Deborah, wife of Samuel Oakman, and his grandson, Melzer Turner Oakman. His inventory was recorded on 27 October 1778 in Scituate.[7]

In 1789, an account of his estate by his widow Mary was recorded which included debts paid, taxes, legacies paid, blacksmith tools sold at a loss, funeral charges, gravestones, and administration fees.[8]

In 1794, his estate was set out to his widow Mary, and Lucy Tilden, wife of Tacher Tilden, Ruth Turner, and Rachel Turner.[9]

Sources

  1. Vital Records of Scituate, Massachusetts, to the year 1850 Volume 1 Births Vol. 1:376.
    "Turner, John, s. Benjamin, Jan. 1, 1692-3.
  2. 2.0 2.1 Vital Records of Scituate, Massachusetts, to the year 1850 Volume II Marriages and Deaths New England Historic Genealogical Society At The Charge Of The Eddy Town-Record Fund, Boston, Mass. 1909. (Page 303)
  3. Vol. 2:457.
  4. Find a Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/132403407/john-turner : accessed 20 November 2021), memorial page for John Turner (1 Jan 1693–20 Mar 1778), Find A Grave: Memorial #132403407, citing Second Parish Cemetery, Norwell, Plymouth County, Massachusetts, USA ; Maintained by Beverly Burnett (contributor 46898315). (Includes gravestone photo.)
  5. Esther Littleford Woodsworth-Barnes, Mayflower Families through Five Generations, Vol 16, Part 1, The Descendants of John Alden, General Society of Mayflower Descendants, 2002. "The Silver Book" Page 236
  6. Warren Silver Book, Richard Warren of the Mayflower, Fifth Generation, Volume Eighteen, Part 2, Second Edition, Published by the General Society of Mayflower Descendants, 2016, Page 3
  7. "Massachusetts, Plymouth County, Probate Records, 1633-1967," images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-897D-ZS6G : 20 May 2014), Probate records 1775-1780 vol 24-25 > image 325-326 of 568; State Archives, Boston.
  8. "Massachusetts, Plymouth County, Probate Records, 1633-1967," images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L97D-8Z2H : 20 May 2014), Probate records 1785-1792 vol 30-31 > image 304-305 of 639; State Archives, Boston.
  9. "Massachusetts, Plymouth County, Probate Records, 1633-1967," images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L97D-V433 : 20 May 2014), Probate records 1793-1804 vol 34-35 > image 319-320 of 545; State Archives, Boston.




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Please critically assess the likelihood that this John Turner was married to Mary (Vinal) Shaw (1739-aft.1789). She would have been 47 years younger than he was.
posted by John French Ph.D.
Her identity was determined through deeds executed by her 2nd husband. Amos and Mary sold a piece of land that Mary's father left her. [Paraphrased from Mayflower Families In Progress (William Brewster- Jonathan)
posted by Anne B
We might consider that there was a different John Turner (1729-) of Scituate, born 1729, who would have been more contemporaneous with Mary Vinal. His profile is obviously poorly constructed, nevertheless we should try to ascertain whether he might have been a better "candidate" as her husband. It's simply inconceivable that a man of those times would have married a woman who would have been an age level of his granddaughter.
posted by John French Ph.D.
This John Turner died in his 86th year on 20 Mar 1778, calculating to a birth year of 1692, give or take. His first wife's gravestone is next to his in the Scituate 2nd parish cemetery. The great difference in their ages may be currently uncomfortable, but in this case it does appear to be true.
posted by Bobbie (Madison) Hall
In addition, I suspect (without looking) that the b. 1729 John Turner is fictitious. He was at one time attached as a son of this John Turner
posted by Anne B