This is the Final Profile ID for Suthen, wife of Duncan I of Scotland.
- Suthen/Sybil is being consolidated in this profile. Due to her unknown parentage, her LNAB has been determined as UNKNOWN.
Take care when merging.
- There is confusion surrounding the origins of Sybill/Suthen. Conflicting theories claim she is either a: cousin, sister, or daughter of Siward, Earl of Northumbria. Therefore, her LNAB is "UNKNOWN".
- Siward had 2 known children: Waltheof of Bamburg and (unproven) Osbeorne (d.27 Jul 1054).
- "[SIBYLLA] . The Chronicle of John of Fordun states the mother of Malcolm and Donald Bane, Duncan's sons, was "the cousin of Earl Siward". This info is not in any earlier source and should be considered dubious" (Medieval Lands)
- Please see G2G discussion for more:
- Name: Suthen
- Alias: Sybill, Sybilla
- b. ____
- d. ____
- John of Fordun:
- Foundation for Medieval Genealogy  states:
- information is dubious ... "In one earlier king list, King Malcolm III's mother is named "Suthen"".
- more recent sources suggest:
- Earl Siward and Sybilla are siblings.
- Sybilla was daughter of Bjorn Bearsson and sister of Sigurd "Digera" Bjornsson, Earl of Northumbria
Marriage and Issue
- m. c.1030 Duncan of Scotland. Issue:
- Malcolm III
- Donald III
- ↑ Fordun, J. (1872) Chronicle of a Scottish Nation. Felix J.H. Skene, Trans. & William F. Skene, Ed. Edinburgh: Edmonston and Douglas. www.archive.org
- ↑ fmg.ac
- ↑ Ashley, M. (2008). A Brief History of British Kings and Queens, (pp.106-107). Philadelphia, PA: Running Press Book Publishers. Print.
- ↑ Alan Anderson's EARLY SOURCES OF SCOTTISH HISTORY, AD 500-1286; Weir, A. (n.d.) BRITAIN'S ROYAL FAMILIES (revised edition).
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On October 21, 2014 at 15:23GMT Glenn Kittredge wrote:
On December 3, 2013 at 21:11GMT Sheri Sturm wrote:
On May 15, 2013 at 08:54GMT Wendy Hampton wrote:
On May 15, 2013 at 00:59GMT Sheri Sturm wrote:
Since there were no separate countries like we have today in Scandanavia, the patrynomic systems which vary from Denmark to Finland could all be standardized in the old Norse way: -son for "son of" and -sdottir for daughter of (father's first name) - Nelsson, Nelsdottir.
This would streamline names. Since 1850 only Iceland still uses the feminine ending. All others are masculine and no longer change with generations. Another possibility is to default to father's first name without a gender ending so siblings can be matched more easily. (Nels and Nels) In any case, all old Norse names should begin with the father's first name, which means the names will change with each generation in ancient times.
On April 29, 2013 at 14:45GMT Wendy Hampton wrote: