Jonathan  Van Velsen

Jonathan Van Velsen (abt. 1780 - 1824)

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Eld. Jonathan Van Velsen
Born about in New Yorkmap [uncertain]
Son of [father unknown] and [mother unknown]
[sibling(s) unknown]
Husband of — married [date unknown] [location unknown]
Died in New York City, New Yorkmap
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Categories: Olive, New York.

somehow cousin of Catharine Haviland



Baptism (1810)

Saturday, April 7, 1810 "Jonathan Van Velson gave a relation of the work of grace on his heart which gained the fellowship of the church...was baptized the following day and received the hand of fellowship" [1]

Ordination Minutes (1816)

"Marbletown October 3, 1816

At a Council called by the Church of Marbletown for the purpose of ordaining Jonathan Vanvelsin to the work of the Ministry - the Church met at the Bapt. Metting house opened meeting by prayer by Eld. Hezekiah Pettit -

  • Firstly, cauled on the Lexington Church and received their return they seat their Eld. Hezekiah Pettit & bretheren Aron Bushnell, John Newton & Samuel Peck -
  • 2dly, Cauled on the Roxbury Church and received their answer to our request they sent their Eld. Wm. Warren & Breth. Jonathan Hammon, Joseph Moss Thomas Falkner -
  • 3rd, Cauled on the Lattintown Church no returns
  • 4ly, Cauled on the Colchester Church no returns
  • 5ly, Above mentioned Delegates ware received by the Church as their Council with the Brethern which they had appointed to set with them viz - James Winchel Nathaniel T. Jones Tittus Bishop with the Church Clerk
  • 6ly, The Council being convened voted Eld William Warren Moderator - Br. Falkner Clerk
  • Seventhly, the Church presented Br. Jonathan Vanvelsen the Candidate for Ordination to the Council
  • Eighthly, Cauld on the Candidate to relate his experience
  • 9ly, Cauld on the Candidate to relate his call to the Ministry
  • 10ly, to relate his ideas on Divinity
  • 11ly, Voted for the Council to retire to form their judgement with regard to the relation given
  • 12ly, the Council being returned and convend proposed the following queries
Query #1 Are we satisfied with his experience answer in the affirmative
2ly Are we satisifed with his call to the Ministry Answer yes
3rd Are we satisfied with his eydeas in Divinity Answer yes
4ly Is it expedient to proceed to Ordination Answer yes
  • 13ly The Council being united in their judgment agreed to procead to the ordination in the following manner: Eld. Hezikiah Pettit to preach the Ordination Sermon, Eld. Warren to make the Ordination Prayer, Eld. Pettit to give the Charge, Eld Pettit to give the right hand of fellowship and make the concluding prayer, Eld. Pettit to write the Certificate of Ordination.
  • 14ly The Council being thus agreed, they proceeded to the Meting house and proceded to ordain the Candidate. Eld Pettit prayed and preached from Acts 30th Chapter and the middle and last clause of the 2nd Verse - Separate unto me Saul and Barnibus to the work whereunto I have caused them.
  • 15ly And lastly, they proceeded through the Ordination as proposed and recorded.

Certificate of Ordination

To all persons whom it may concern,

This may certify that the barer Jonathan Vanvelsin was this day set apart for the work of the Ministry by solemn Ordination in the fellowship of the first Bapt. Church in Marbletown and by the assistance of the following Council: Eld Wm Warren and brethren Thomas Falkener Jonathan Hammon and Joseph Morss from Roxbury - Eld Hezekiah Pettit and Brethren Aron Bushnell, John Newton and Solomon Peck from Lexington. Who hereby recommend our beloved brother Vanvelsin to the notice of all good people and sincerely pray that a Divine blessing may attend him and his labors.

Marbletown. October the 3rd AD 1816

William Warren { Moderator
Thomas Falkner { Clerk[2]

Henry Fitz on Attempts to Debate with Elder Van Velsen (1821)


"For I beheld, and there was no man; even among them, and there was no counciller, that when I asked of them, COULD ANSWER A WORD. Behold, they are all vanity - their works are NOTHING." Isa. xli. 28,29.

On Friday, August 31st, a committee of two members from the Rev. Van Velsan's church, waited on me with a request, that I would meet their pastor, Mr. Van V. on the Monday following, at his church in Broome-street, at 7 o'clock, P.M. for the purpose of discussing the question of the extent of the Atonement, and defending the doctrine of the "Restitution of all things," against the attack which should be made at that time and place, by the Rev. gentleman aforesaid. I concented to meet him, - The time arrived. A tremendous hurricane raged, and the church was filled, not withstanding the war of elements, the wreck of matter, and the crash of buildings! A message arrived from Mr. Van V. informing the audience that, in consequences of the inclement** of the weather, and his *** indisposition, he could not attend; and they accordingly dispersed. The committee called on me after the meeting was dismissed, and Friday evening, Sept. 7 was proposed. They agreed to consult Mr. Van V., and informed me of his acceptance or the contrary, during the following day. Not hearing from them, I called on Mr. V. on Wednesday, and he agreed to meet on Friday evening at 7 o'clock, at his church, &c. This arrangement was made known, and circulated, in an almost unaccountable manner, throughout the city, and in adjacent towns.

On Friday, at 1 o'clock, one of the committee called and informed me that the evening previous the church had met, and a majority of the members decided that the house should not be opened for the discussion. He likewise stated that "the Rev. Mr. Parkinson had sent word to them, and advised them not to have anything to do with the Universalists," &c. We repaired to Mr. Van V. who said he had no control over his people, and could not oblige them to open the house. He declared that he would meet me in any large convenient building which could be obtained, and publicly discuss the subject in question; and if no building convenient for the purpose could be procured, he would meet in the open field! I left him about 2 o'clock P.M. and informed some of the friends of truth of the decision of the members of Mr. Van V's church, &c. They immediately applied for and obtained Tammany Hall for the evening, and a gentleman started immediately for Mr. Van V's house, to give him the necessary information. Mr. Van V. could not be found at his own house, nor at those of his friends, where it was said he had, in all probability retired. An effort was made by gentlemen from a distant town, (who had come to hear the discussion) about half past 6 o'clock to find him, and persuade him to meet at Tammany Hall that evening, Their search proved fruitless. In the mean time, an admirer of the Rev. Mr. Van V., in company with a believer in the restitution of all things, repaired to Tammany Hall, relinquished the Hall for that evening, and agreed for it for the Wednesday evening following, (the 12th inst.) the friend and advocate of Mr. Van V pledging himself that Mr. Van V. should appear (sickness accepted) with his moderator, &c. Understanding, about 7 o'clock, that a large concourse of people had assembled in Broome St in front of Mr. Van V's church, I went there, and informed them of the decision of Mr. Van V's people, that the church should not be opened, &c. I likewise informed them that the meeting would take place at Tammany Hall on the Wednesday following, &c. It is due our fellow citizens to declare, that, notwithstanding the disappointment, good order and harmony prevailed throughout the crowd.

On Saturday morning I learned that Mr. Van V. had declined a public discussion. On the evening of that day I waited upon him and xxxxxxxxxx xxx xxxxxxx a declaration, that he would not meet in public in any manner whatever. He likewise declared, that he would meet me in private, in company with twelve members of his church, and as many Universalists, and that the discussion might be made public, if a majority though proper. A competent Stenographer had been engaged from the first, and it was generally understood, that the discussion should be published to the world.

On Tuesday evening (the 11th inst.) I called on Mr. Van V. for the purpose of making the necessary arrangements for a private discussion, and asked him if he would meet and discuss the subject in private, &c., received for answer, "I will not have any thing to do with a Universalist."

Thus ends the word, repeatedly pledged, of a Calvinistic Clergyman! Like a ghost, it dissolved into thin air, and vanished! And we tell him, that had he been true to his appointment, his doctrine would have vanished also! (To be Continued.)

Baptisms (1815-1819)

  • abt 1815 - Phebe ()Knickerbarker, Lawrence Knickerbarker, Jacob Winchel - Church of Marbletown[4]
  • October 1817 - Joel Turner, Church of Marbletown[5]
  • November 28, 1818 Conrad J. Elmendorf[6]
  • June 29, 1819 - Rosetta () Every, Church of Marbletown[7]

Marriages in Olive (1819)

Marriages in New York City (1820-23)

  • February 20, 1820 "On Sunday evening last, by the Rev. Jonathan Van Velger, Jackson Coleman, to Miss Sarah Searl, all of this city."[8]
  • May 21, 1820 "On Saturday evening last, by the Rev. Mr. Van Velsin, Mr. John Matthews, to Miss Sophia Parker."[9]
  • February 6, 1821 "On the 6th Inst. by the Rev. Mr. Vanvelan, Mr. George Thompson, to Miss Frances Burgen, both of this city."[10]
  • April 24, 1822 "On Wednesday last, by Rev. Mr. Vanvelsin, Mr. Peter Warden, to Miss Mary Hutchins, both of this city."[11]
  • September 29, 1822 "On Sunday, by the Rev. Mr. Vanvelsor, Mr. Garrit Westervelt, of this city, to Miss Mary E. Beebe, of Norwich, Ct."[12]
  • November 13, 1822 "On Wednesday evening, by the Rev. Mr. Van Velser, Mr. Joseph Silva, of Staten Island, to Miss Eliza Pelton, of this city."[13]
  • February 4, 1823 "On Tuesday evening last, by elder Jonathan Vanvelsan, Mr. Gilbert Beebe to Miss Phebe Cunningham."[14]
  • March 6, 1823 "On Thursday evening last, by elder Jonathan Vanvelsan, Mr. Andrew Kitchel, of this city, to Miss Eliza Campbell, formerly of Philadelphia.""[15]
  • May 8, 1823 "On Thursday evening last, by the Rev. Mr. Van Velsen, Dennis Naitlis, Esq merchant tailor, to Miss Margaret Anderson, all of this city."[16]
  • May 21, 1823 "on the 21st inst. by the Rev. Mr. Van Velsen, Samuel Colby, painter, to Miss Sarah Riggs, both of this city.""[17]
  • October 4, 1823 "On the same evening, by Elder J Vanvelsan, Mr A Dungan, to Miss Hannah Ayres."[18]

Last Residence: 10 Lispenard Street, New York, NY


No sources. The events of Jonathan's life were either witnessed by Eric Winchell or Eric plans to add sources here later.


  1. Minutes of the First Baptist Church of Marbletown, book 2
  2. Minutes of the First Baptist Church of Marbletown, book 2
  3. Saturday, December 22, 1821 Religious Inquirer (Hartford, CT) Volume: I Issue: IV Page: 25
  4. Signs of the Times 07/15/1871
  5. Signs of the Times 11/01/1862
  6. Signs of the Times 6/1/1862
  7. Signs of the Times 2/15/1868
  8. Tuesday, February 22, 1820 Columbian (New York, NY) Volume: XI Issue: 2951 Page: 3
  9. Tuesday, May 23, 1820 New-York Daily Advertiser (New York, NY) Issue: 966 Page: 2
  10. February 23, 1821 National Advocate (New York, NY) Volume: IX Issue: 2320 Page: 2
  11. Friday, April 26, 1822 Evening Post (New York, NY) Issue 6186 Page: 2
  12. Friday, October 4, 1822 Spectator (New York, NY) Page: 3
  13. Tuesday, November 19, 1822 Paper: Spectator (New York, NY) Page: 2
  14. Saturday, February 8, 1823 Evening Post (New York, NY) Issue: 6429 Page 3
  15. Saturday, March 8, 1823 Evening Post (New York, NY) Volume: 6453 Issue: 49 Page: 2
  16. Tuesday, May 13, 1823 Spectator (New York, NY) Page: 2
  17. Saturday, May 24, 1823 Paper: Weekly Visitor (New York, NY) Volume: VII Issue: 4 Page: 64
  18. Saturday, October 11, 1823, Weekly Visitor (New York, NY) Volume: VII Issue: 24 Page: 384


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