Rem (Janszen) van der Beeck
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Rem (Janszen) van der Beeck (1619 - 1681)

Rem "Remmet, Remmert, Remmelt" van der Beeck formerly Janszen aka Jans, Jansz, Jansen, van der Beek, Vanderbeek
Born in Jever, Herrschaft Oldenburg, Heiliges Römisches Reichmap
Ancestors ancestors
[sibling(s) unknown]
Husband of — married 21 Dec 1642 in New Amsterdam, New Netherlandmap
Descendants descendants
Died at about age 61 in Flatlands, Brooklyn, Kings County, Long Island, Province of New Yorkmap
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Biography

Rem Janszen (van der Beek was a smith from Jever in Oldenburg. [1] Nothing is known about his parents aside from Rem's patronymic. At the immigration Rem is mentioned with just the patronymic Jansz. Rem Jansz or Jansen (van der Beeck or van der Ba(e)ck[2]
"Rem (Remmer) Jansz, from Jewerden [Jeveren, or Jever, in Oldenburg], smith; was at New Amsterdam as early as 1638, and in 1643 owned land on Long Island. Early in May 1650, he obtained from the authorities of Rensselaerswyck a lease of a garden adjoining the churchyard, and is referred to as being an Inwoonder int Fort Orangien (inhabitant of Fort Orange)." [3]
Rem(melt) Jansen van der Beeck (Remsen), was born 1619 and , at that time he was named Rem Jansz, emigrated in 1638, religion : Luth. from Jever to the New Netherlands , abt 19 years of age[4] Jever, Oldenburg, (now Niedersachsen, Westphalia, Germany) , back than part of the Netherlands . Rem died in 1681, 62 years of age.
He married 21 December 1642 at the Reformed Dutch Church, New Amsterdam Jannetje Joris Rapalje, who was born August 1629 at New Amsterdam and was baptized at Reformed Dutch Church, New Amsterdam and died after May 1699 at New York City? at 70 years of age, a daughter of Joris Jean Raparielliet (Rapalje) and Catalyntje Jeronimus Tricaud Raparielliet (Rapalje).
His occupation in Albany was as blacksmith and several of his children were born there. He lived in New Amsterdam from 1643-51 in Beverwyck (now known as Albany, NY) from 1655 to 1660 at the Waleboght, or Wallabout, in which place he owned several houses and lots. He sold his Albany residence and land in 1660 and moved with his wife Jannetje Jansen Rapalier to a plantation adjacent to his father-in-law in the Wallabout area in what became the City of Brooklyn.
The city has honored the Remsen Family with a playground named after them that lies between Remsen Ave., Glenwood Rd., East 92nd Place, and Bay View Place.
They were registered as members of the Reformed Dutch Church, New Amsterdam and from the Reformed Dutch Church, Beverwyck, New Netherland.
His sons were called Rem's sons, hence the name. The name, patronymic , surname has continued as Remsen.
The Remsen Family are descendants of a family whose original name was Van der Beeck (Baeck ? Back ?). Rem Jansen Vanderbeeck came to this country in the early 17th century. Following the custom of their culture and time, Vanderbeeck's children all took the name Remsen, which literally means "son of Rem". The Vanderbeeck lineage from this point on became known as the Remsen family. One of the earliest families in the Brooklyn area record.[5]

Birth date

Declaration of Remmert Ja[n]sen, aged 25 years, and Rouloff Jansen, aged 21 years, who at the request of the fiscal declare that on the day before Benedic[t] Hendricx went out with his troop they heard said Benedict Hendricx say that Hillegont Joris owed him over eighty guilders. All of which they declare to be true. Done the 28th of January 1644, in Fort Amsterdam, New Netherland. Which the deponents have confirmed by oath before the fiscal.Rem Yansen Rolof Jansen Haes Acknowledged before me, Cornelis van Tienhoven,Secretary"
According this, Rem was 25 years on January 28th, 1644 , so the date of his Birth , year 1619 seems correct . This means he migrated to the New Netherlands at the age of 19 (1638) [6]
Here a Birthdate was mentioned of 18 Aug 1619, so considering the above this seems most accurate Long Island surnames[7]
Alternate:1617 in Jeverne, Westphalia, Germany=Jever see; Jever place in Oost Friesland ,later added to Germany (Nedersaksen) but back than part of Holland [8][9]
All agree that Rem immigrated to Albany, New York, though it's not sure if he was born in Jever, Westphalia or in Coevorden, Drenthe, Netherlands.
No further info found at Jever , only the emigration with his religion (Lutheran) mentioned. The registration of his name in Jever as :´Rem Jansz (with the ´z´) suggests he is of Dutch origin as well, because the ´z´ stands for´zoon´(= dutch for son )

Arrival

emigration 1638 =(Auswanderung) registration Jever Oldenburg
Emigratie - 1638 - From Jever, Oldenburg, (than part of) the Netherlands to Nieuw Amsterdam (New York, NY)
The progenitor of the family in America was Rem Jansen Vanderbeeck, who came to the New Netherlands in 1642[10]

Marriage

21 Dec, 1642 he married Jannetje Rapalje, daughter of Joris Rapalje and Catalyntje Trico Rapalje. [11][12][10][13][5][14]
Church record (transcript) Marriage: 1642, 21 Dec Remmet Janszen, j.m. Van Jeveren, en Janneken Rapalje, j.d. Van N. Nederlt [15]

Children

Children from this marriage
  1. Annetje Remsenwas baptized 12 March 1645 and died 23 April 1645.
  2. Belitje Remmelts (Vanderbeeck) was baptized 20 January 1647 at New Amsterdam and died young). 20 Jan 1647 Rem Janszen Smit; Belitje; Joris Rappalje, Catalina Trico [16]
  3. Jan (Remsz) Remsen, who was born January 1648 and married Metje Jan Damen Remsen/ Simpson.
  4. Joris (Remsen) van der Beeck, who was born 02 February 1650 and married Femmetje <Dirck> Woertman Remsen .
  5. Rem Remsen, who was born 02 December 1652 and married Marritje Jan Vanderbilt Remsen.
  6. Hildegonde (Rems) Reims who was born September 1653 and married Aert Jans Vanderbilt.
  7. Catelijntie (Remse) Vanderbeeck, who was born 01 October 1655 and married Elbert <Adriaen> Ryersen (Adriance).
  8. Femmetje Rems who was born 01 August 1657 and married Joseph Adriaens Hegeman.
  9. Jannetje Remsen who was born about 1658 and married Gerrit Hans Van Nostrand.
  10. Annatje Remmelts (Vanderbeeck) Dorlandt, who was born 11 April 1660 and married Jan Gerrits Dorland.
  11. Jacob Remsen, who was born 19 March 1662 and married Geertje Dircks Vandervliet Remsen.
  12. Jeronimus (Remmelts) Remsen, who was born 1664 at Wallabout, New Netherland and died before 1750 at Newtown, Queens County, New York at 86 years of age. He married 1688 Catalina Cornelis Berrien Remsen, who was born about 1679 at Flatbush, Kings County, New York, a daughter of Cornelis Jans Berrien and Jannetje Jans Stryker Berrien/Edsall.
  13. Daniel (Remmelts) Remsen [17], who was born 1665 at Wallabout, Kings County, New York and died 29 February 1736 at Flatbush, Kings County, New York at 71 years of age. He married Jannetje Jans Ditmars Remsen, who was born about 1665 at Flatbush, Kings County, New York and died 02 September 1736 at 71 years of age, a daughter of Jan Jans Van Ditmars and Adriantje (?) ? Van Ditmars.Daniel's will page 214 Abstracts of NY wills. [18]
  14. Abraham Remsen, who was born 14 September 1667 and married Antje Aerts Middagh Remsen.
  15. Sarah Remsen, who was born 06 December 1670 and married Marten Adriaens Ryersen (Martense).
  16. Isaac (Remmelts) Remsen, who was born 04 September 1673 and married Sarah Pieters Monfoort Remsen.
  17. Jeremias Remsen, who was born 10 September 1675 and married Heyltje Christoffels Probasco Remsen.
Note: The male descendants of Remmelt Vanderbeeck adopted the surname Remsen in lieu of Vanderbeeck.

Residence

First Residence: Jever, Oldenburg, Niedersachsen, Westphalia, Germany.
Second Residence: Coevorden, Drenthe, Netherland.
Third Residence: New Amsterdam from 1642 to 1651.
Fourth Residence: Beverwyck, New Netherland from 1655 to 1660.
Fifth Residence - - Wallabout, Kings County, New York.

Death

Rem Died 1681 in Brooklyn, Kings, New York, United States[11][10][5][14][7]

Burial

Rem Jansen Vanderbeeck is buried in the Flatbush Reformed Dutch Church Cemetery in Flatbush, Kings County (Brooklyn), New York.[7]

Occupation

Farmer and Blacksmith[10][13]

Church Records

Marriage
  • 1642 Dec 21 Remmet Janszen, j.m. Van Jeveren, en Janneken Rapalje, j.d. Van N. Nederlt. [19]
Children's baptisms
  1. 1645 Mar 12 Annetje - Rem Janszen. Wit.: Joris Rappalije, Catalyn Joris, Margrietje Hendricks.
  2. 1647 Jan 20 Belitie - Rem Janszen Smit. Wit.: Joris Rappalje, Catalina Trico.
  3. 1648 Feb 09 Jan - Rem Janszen. Wit.: Michiel Pauluszen, Hendrick Willemszen, Backer, Sara Rapalje. [20]
  4. 1662 Mar 19 Jacob - Rem Janszen, Janneken Joris, of the Walebocht, parents. Wit.: Jan Joriszen De Rappalie, Teunis Gysbertsen Bogert, Catharina Joris de Rappalie. [21]
  5. 1673 Sep 15 Isaac - Rem Janszen, Jannetje Joris. Wit.: Jeremias Janszen, Geesje Jans. [20]

Research Notes

Rem Jansen acquired Lot 2 on Pearl Street on 29 March 1647. It was located between Claes de Ruyter and the Company's bakery. He sold it to Laurens Jansen on 12 Aug 1656. His father-in-law, Joris (George) Rapalje acquired a lot on the north side of Pearl Street on 18 Mar 1647. Another possible resident is Hans Hansse Bergen married to Sarah Rapalje who is living next door to "George" Rapalje on lot 4. [22].

Rem Jansen and Joris (George) Rapalje living on Pearl Street. Home of Rem Jansen marked in red. Home of George Rapalje marked in blue.

An interesting note from the Fort Orange Court Minutes March 16, 1655 "Rem Jansz Smit requests a lot at the hill for his brother-in-law, Michiel de Karreman which is granted him on the same conditions that are granted to others, the gardens to be assigned afterwards by lottery." [23]


LNAB

Janszen, Remet's patronymic, is the surname that first appears for him in church records. Quackenbush-118 04:36, 17 April 2017 (EDT)

Last name-Patronymic

Rem Jansz Here Rem Jansz is only spoken of as Rem Jansz , the name 'van der Beek' or 'van der Back' isn't mentioned ? Is it possible the last name van der Beek/or van de Back was a name only the later generations started to use in New Netherland (?) read something about the land they owned there and there they mention a stream/river/ Beek also (dividing the land ,or as some border of the land they owned), meaning the last name maybe doesn´t have anything to do with Holland or the place he was born ?
If not, maybe he was from this place or area named Baeck or Baack . There's a history of a House Baeck or Baak / De bouwgeschiedenis van Huize Baak Over de vroegste geschiedenis van Huize Baak weten we eigenlijk niets. in 1190 wordt de eerste "van Baeck" genoemd, Berthold van Baeck. The area , region were this House (castle/ burg/ Hof) Baeck was build , was named Marke Baak ,so people living in that area would say they were from =van Baeck or Baak, later maybe standarised and used as last names van Bee(c)k or van der Bee(c)k.
[1] here they try to explain the origin of the name ,it seems there was a brook (beek) named Baak or Baeck and that's why the area was named Baak. This Area is in the Netherlands ,Achterhoek,Gelderland.(as some suggested already for possible place Birth) So if Rem Jansz really used the name van der Back or van der Baeck and later van der Beeck , this could be a possibility as well.
During those days there were a lot of wars and that explains why a lot of people went to Amsterdam or Oost Friesland (Jeveren) for example (see wikipedia link) Moving from Gelderland to Germany is also logic because from there to Germany isn't that far.

Interesting Records

Rem Jansz from Jewerden ( Jeveren, or Jever, in Oldenburg), a blacksmith was at New Amsterdam as early as 1638 [24] ,and in 1643 owned land on Long Island. Early in May 1650, he obtained from the authorities of Rensselaerswyck a lease of a garden adjoining the churchyard, and is referred to as being an 'Inwoonder int Fort Orangien (inhabitant of Fort Orange).'
name : Femmetje Rems, 1686, dochter van/ daughter of Rem Janse van der Back en Jannetje Rapelje. [25]

Connection Hegeman- de Baeck Family

Here's a Rodolpha or Roeltgen de Baeck she is married to Cornelis Hegeman She is born ca 1583, maybe they are somehow related ?? Just an idea ....(of course already looking for some prove /connection) .Here [26]they mention :Op 14 januari 1640 verkopen Jan Baeck en Roeloff Hegeman (=son of Cornelis and Rodolpha !) , zich sterk makende voor zijn moeder Roeltgen Hegemans (=de Baeck), e.a., een stuk land, genaamd Wallenbos, in de vrijheid van Elburg....
So Rem Jansz, who possibly is a son of a Jan (van de Back ..Baeck ?) who's son in law Joseph Adriaens Hegeman / Joseph Hegeman emigrated as well .....maybe this Jan de Baeck is a brother or cousin and maybe they all knew eachother from Elburg or Harderwijk already , and maybe this is why Joseph emigrated (because they were somehow related/ connected)?? (Looking for the connections between the families in Elburg , Harderwijk and the New Netherlands , by adding links to the names mentioned in the regests...

Sources

  1. Evjen: Page 419
  2. Source: Femmetje Rems, overleden 1686, dochter van Rem Janse van der Back en Jannetje Rapelje; was born August 19th, 1619
  3. Van Rensselaer Bowier: Page 841
  4. see source image and info content Birthdate
  5. 5.0 5.1 5.2 Riker, James, Jr. The Annals of Newtown in Queens County, New York, containing its History from its first Settlement together with Many Interesting Facts Concerning the Adjacent Towns D. Fanshaw; New York; 1852
  6. see image
  7. 7.0 7.1 7.2 Find A Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com : accessed 28 August 2019), memorial page for Remmet Jansen “Rem” Van der Beek (1619–1681), Find A Grave Memorial no. 77244758, citing Flatbush Reformed Dutch Church Cemetery, Flatbush, Kings County (Brooklyn), New York, USA ; Maintained by Willora Glee Krapf (contributor 47029104) .
  8. Source: #S68 Data: Text: Birth date: 1617 Birth place: Jeveren, Westphalia, Netherlands Note: #N2095
  9. Source: #S1206602017: Note: Ancestry Record genepoolb #4627551 Text:Birth date: 1617 Birth place: Jeveren, Westphalia, Netherlands APID: 5769::4627551
  10. 10.0 10.1 10.2 10.3 HAMM, MARGHERITA ARLINA. Famous Families of New York: Historical and Biographical Sketches of Families Which in ... Successive Generations Have Been Identified with T. New York, NY: G P Putnam's Sons, 1902. Note "Illustrated."|||"This work is based upon a series of articles which originally appeared in The New York evening post."--V. 1, p. [iii].|||Includes index. Digitized by Forgotten Books, 2016, Page 74-75.
  11. 11.0 11.1 Eardley, William A. Chronology and Ancestry of Chauncey M. Depew: With Fifty-four Other Affiliated Families of New York, New Jersey and New England. New York, NY: Unknown, 1918. Digitized by Archives.com. Page 197. {https://ia600505.us.archive.org/28/items/genealogicalpers01coll/genealogicalpers01coll.pdf}
  12. Nationaal Archief Nieuw-Nederland; Den Haag, Nederland; DTB Trouwen. WieWasWie. https://www.wiewaswie.nl/personen-zoeken/zoeken/document/srcid/20995729
  13. 13.0 13.1 Bergen, Teunis G., Register in Alphabetical Order, of the Early Settlers of Kings County, Long Island, N.Y.: From Its First Settlement by Europeans to 1700 ; With Contributions to Their Biographies and Genealogies, Compiled from Various Sources. New York: S. W. Green's Son, Printer, Electrotyper and Binder, 1861. Page 239.
  14. 14.0 14.1 Van Norden, Theodore Langdon. The Van Norden Family Three Hundred Years in America 1623-1923. Lancaster, PA:1923, Page 53.
  15. Samuel S. Purple. "Marriages from 1639 to 1801 in the Reformed Dutch Church, New York" In Collections of the New-York Genealogical and Biographical Society. Vol. I. New York: Printed for the Society, 1890.
  16. http://www.olivetreegenealogy.com/nn/church/rdcbapt3.shtml
  17. Rn=6366
  18. https://ia902607.us.archive.org/28/items/abstractswillso01kellgoog/abstractswillso01kellgoog.pdf
  19. Collections NY Gen. & Biog. Soc.: 1890, Vol. 1, Page 12
  20. 20.0 20.1 Thomas Grier Evans. "Baptisms from 1639 to 1730 in the Reformed Dutch Church, New York." In Collections of the New-York Genealogical and Biographical Society. Vol. II. New York: Printed for the Society, 1890.
  21. Theodore M. Banta. Year Book of the Holland Society of New York. New York: Knickerbocker Press, New York, 1897.
  22. 17 State Street, An Archaeological Evaluation by Joan H Geisman, 1986 page 8 http://s-media.nyc.gov/agencies/lpc/arch_reports/301.pdf
  23. New Netherland Document Series Vol. XVI, part two by Charles T. Gehring Fort Orange Court Minutes 1652-1660, pg 183 https://www.newnetherlandinstitute.org/files/5414/0284/1848/Fort_Orange_Court_Minutes_1652-1660.pdf
  24. see image emigration
  25. in Holland /Germany ,only names used by them were Rem Janse or Rem Jansz patronymics and this seemed to be continued in the New Netherlands as well, the patronymic Remsen (Rems sons) was used by the children
  26. 1974 Jaarboek CBG Deel 28
  • New York State Library, Kiliaen van Rensselaer, Arnold J. F. Van Laer, Nicolaas de Roever, and Susan De Lancey Van Rennselaer Strong. Van Rensselaer Bowier Manuscripts (Albany, University of the state of New York, 1908)
  • Excerpt from Early New Netherlands Settlers website
  • image emigration record Oldenburg Jever 1638
  • The American Genealogist: Volume 35 1960 page 190
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* William Adriaense Bennett by Kenneth A Bennett 1998 page 150, 210

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Acknowledgments

  • This person was created through the import of Liles - Craig Family Tree.ged on 08 March 2011.
  • WikiTree profile Vanderbeeck-17 created through the import of Liles - Craig Family Tree_2012-03-21_01.ged on Mar 21, 2012 by Paul Liles.
  • WikiTree profile Van Der Beek-16 created through the import of McClintock Family Tree.ged on Oct 5, 2012 by Kimberly McClintock.




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Excellent profile. I find instances of duplication of facts (usually each with a different source), extraneous data (don't need data on children's baptism, this is for the child's profile, or data on child's life), unnecessary information. Should be reviewed and information compacted and extraneous data removed. A more understandable biography should be written, as is is a mess, too much data and in no logical order. I have found a couple of sources that I can not verify (perhaps I need a different search engine?), and should be removed.

Would like the opportunity to update and correct this profile, with PM's okay..

posted by Arthur Van Riper Jr
Van der Beek-268 and Janszen-52 appear to represent the same person because: they represent the same man. As Janszen-52 is PPP and is the patronymic spelling, please merge into Janszen-52. Keep Van der Beek as an "Other" name. Note: he was born in 1619, not 1629 (or he would have been 13 when he married - not likely!). Also, Jever is in Friesland, today in Germany, not the Netherlands. Also, duplicates for his son JACOB must be merged. Thank you!
posted by Chet Snow
Please check for and correct suggesstions. There are at least 5 DBEs on this profile.

Thank you, Data Doctors

posted by Scott Anderson
Jansen-1252 and Van Der Beek-16 appear to represent the same person because: Please merge
posted by Beryl Meehan
organized all still here but more easy to read
posted by Bea (Timmerman) Wijma
Found another instance of Rem using van der Beek
posted by Carrie Quackenbush
added content possible connection between a de Baeck family and the Hegemans in ELburg/Harderwijk
posted by Bea (Timmerman) Wijma
organized Bio (nothing removed only organized contents) and added the research/facts ideas etc contents ...
posted by Bea (Timmerman) Wijma
Vanderbeek-3 and Jansen-1252 appear to represent the same person because: This is the oldest paternal ancestor in this chain in need of a merge. No tree conflicts. These matches have been reviewed by the New Netherland Settlers Merge Approval System, and the "Green" destination NNS profile is protected as PPP, and the "Merge Pending" profile is now ready and able to be merged into it. I saved the data to the bios. Thanks!
posted by Steven Mix
list of baptism from texel ,here´s even a Remmert Jansz(page 337) and a Jan Remmes (page 332) and Jan Remmez (page336) are on the list but seems to early (somewhere in the year 1500)

All variations and standarised last names for Baeck.

  • Baeck,Zïe: Beek
  • Beek (Baeck, Beke, Beec, Beeck), heer van, Zie; Jan van Groesbeek
  • Bartoud van der -, III 145
  • Jacob Hugoz. op dïee -, ïnw. van Haarlem, IV 112
  • Wouter Stecke van -, III 142
  • het huis van Nikolaas van der -, (Haarlem), IV 112
posted by Bea (Timmerman) Wijma
Beverwijck: A Dutch Village on the American Frontier, 1652-1664

Door Janny Venema

Only mention a Rem Jansz (and a whole lot of other Jansz men ) so were does the´ van der Beek´ come from ? Only found one line somewhere saying Femmetje rems daugther of Rem Janse van der Back and jannetje Rapalje see Bio

posted by Bea (Timmerman) Wijma
Vanderbeeck-17 and Jansen-1252 appear to represent the same person because: This is the oldest paternal ancestor in this chain in need of a merge. No tree conflicts. These matches have been reviewed by the New Netherland Settlers Merge Approval System, and the "Green" destination NNS profile is protected as PPP, and the "Merge Pending" profile is now ready and able to be merged into it. I saved the data to the bios. Thanks!
posted by Steven Mix