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Hugh (Venables) de Venables (bef. 1305 - 1367)

Sir Hugh "of Kinderton" de Venables formerly Venables
Born before in Kinderton cum Hulme, Cheshire, Englandmap
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Husband of — married [date unknown] [location unknown]
Husband of — married before 7 Apr 1330 in Cheshire, Englandmap
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Died after age 61 in Kinderton cum Hulme, Cheshire, Englandmap
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Biography

European Aristocracy
Sir Hugh Venables was a member of the aristocracy in England.

Hugh de Venables, Knight[1]

Hugh de Venables was on or born before 23 November, 1305, [he proved he'd reached his majority on 23 November, 1326[2]].

His father was the baron of Kinderton,[3] so Hugh was probably born at Kinderton Cum Hulme, Cheshire, England. Kinderton-with-Hulme, as it was known, was a township in the ancient parish of Middlewich in Northwich Hundred.[4]

Hugh was the son of Sir Hugh de Venables, baron of Kinderton, and his wife, Agatha, the daughter of Ralph Vernon of Vernon of Shipbrook.[3]

Hugh had siblings:

  1. Reginald de Venables, his father gave him the fourth part of Hope in Bradwall;[3]
  2. Roger, living in 1336;[3]
  3. John, living in 1336;[3]
  4. William Venables, living in 1336, but perhaps the same as his father's son and heir who died in or before 6 Edward II and to whom Hugh was heir;[3]
  5. Ellen Venables, wife of John, son and heir of sir John Arderne, 1 Edward II, 1307;[3]
  6. Isabel de Venables, who was married to David Egerton;[3]
  7. Elizabeth Venables, who was married to Richard Done of Utkinton.[3]

After Hugh's eldest brother William, baron of Kinderton, died in 6 Edward II [8 July, 1312-7 July, 1313],[3] Hugh was his heir, and because of his minority, in the wardship of the earl of Chester later Edward III, king of England.[2] Earl Edward granted Hugh's marriage and wardship to Margaret de Daventree until the lawful age of the said Hugh; earl Edward became King Edward III and granted to his son, Edward (the black prince), the county of Chester; Margaret demised Hugh's marriage and wardship to William de Mobberleigh. Edward III, king of England, while earl of Chester, commanded Richard Dunmary his Justiciar of Chester, on 23rd November 20 Edward II 1326, that since Hugh who held of him in chief had proved sufficient age before Richard, the King had taken homage of Hugh for all the lands which William, Hugh's brother, held of the Earl on the day on which he died returning those lands and tenements to Hugh, and he ordered that he should grant to Hugh full seisin of the lands.[2]

Hugh married Elizabeth, the daughter of William Modburlegh,[1] and sister and coheir of Sir Roger de Modburlegh, lord of Mobberley.[3]

Hugh and Elizabeth had children:

  1. Sir William de Venables, Knight,[1] married 1) Agnes, daughter of sir Peter de Dutton of Warburyton, they had no children; and 2) Maud, 16 Edward III, widow 24 Edward III. William and his wife Matilda, the daughter of Richard de Vernon,[1] had children:
    1. Maud;[1] and
    2. Katharine;[1]
  2. John de Venables, married Isabel, the daughter of Philip de Eggerton.[1] John and Isabel had children:
    1. William.[1]

Hugh's wife Elizabeth, their son William and his wife Matilda and both of their daughters, Maude and Katherine, died in Hugh's lifetime.[1] Hugh and Elizabeth's son John, and his son William, also died in Hugh's lifetime.[1]

Hugh then married Katharine, the daughter of Richard de Houghton[1] and Joanna Radcliffe. Hugh and Katrine were married by 7 April, 1330.[5]

Hugh and Katharine had children:

  1. Hugh de Venables, who succeeded his father;[1]
  2. Roger de Venables,[1] married Elizabeth, widow of Sir Randle le Roter and daughter and heiress of Sir William Golborne.
  3. Thomas de Venables;[1] and
  4. Richard;[1]
  5. Joane de Venables, who was married to Thomas Lathom, lord of Lathom, Lancashire, and mother of Isabell, wife of Sir John de Stanley of Lathom.[3]

Other alleged children:

  1. Angella de Venables;
  2. Helena de Venables;
  3. Jennet de Venables;
  4. Margaret de Venables;
  5. Rose De Venables

On Saturday the Eve of Easter, 7th April, 1330, Adam del Holde granted to Hugh de Venables, lord of Kynderton, and Katrine his wife, all his lands tenements etc in Berterton [Bartington, Cheshire], and to the said Hugh and Katherine and their heirs male, and to all their tenants dwelling in Berterton common of pasture for all their cattle in the township of Legh with free ingress and egross thereunto, also to the said Hugh and Katherine and their heirs male the right of digging Turf in Legh with one man for two days every year. Remainder failing issue male to the right heirs of the said Hugh.[5]

On Monday after the Feast of St Michael the Archangel, 26 Edward III, [1 October, 1352], "mons Hugh de Venables de Kynderton" granted to "Thomas Fyton de Gouseworth" in consideration of £33. 6. 8d. the wardship and marriage of "William fitz and heir Mather del Mere" to be married to Margaret daughter of the said Thomas.[6]

Hugh died on the Friday after the feast of St Luke the Evangelist [18 October] in 41 Edward III, which was 22 October 1367.[1]

After Hugh's death, an Inquisition was taken at Middlewich on Thursday after the feast of All Saints in 42 Edward III [2 November, 1368], and the jury found that his son, Hugh, was of full age and the next heir to his property, apart from the manor and Advowson of Eccleston which his widow Katharine held in dower.[1]

Sir Hugh de Venables, may have been 7th or 10th Baron of Kinderton.

Origin of Venables Surname

The Venables surname "is of Norman-French, origin, and is a locational surname from the place called 'Venables' in the arrondissement of Louviers, in Eure, Normandy. The surname was introduced into England by followers of William the Conqueror after the Conquest of 1066. The place name is derived from the Latin word 'venabulum', hunting ground, a derivative of the verb 'venari', to hunt. The surname was first recorded in the beginning of the 13th Century, and the modern surname has the unusual distinction of surviving unchanged for seven hundred years."[7]

Origin of Venables Family[citation needed]

The Venables Family (sometimes 'de Venables') hail originally from the town of Venables near Evreux in Normandy, and it was Gilbert de Venables, (also known as Gilbert Hunter), huntsman to the Dukes of Normandy, who first held the Barony of Kinderton in Cheshire for Hugh Lupus after the Norman Invasion of 1066. Other family members became Barons of Chester and of Warrington, and over time Venables became a prominent Cheshire and Lancashire surname, as did the anglicised version of 'Hunter'. The Domesday Book of 1086 shows Gilbert 'Hunter' holding Brereton, Davenport, Kinderton and Witton (Northwich) and Ralph Hunter holding Stapleford in Cheshire and Soughton in Wales. Later the family became Lords of the Manor of Middlewich.

Wincham Hall, recorded as 'Winundersham' in the Domesday Book, was given to Gilbert de Venables following the Norman Conquest, but it successively passed in and out of the Venables family's ownership through inheritance, married and sale over the following centuries. It survived until bombing in the Second World War destroyed it, after which it was finally demolished.

The family's influence and power throughout medieval Cheshire is evidenced by the wreath on the Coat of Arms of the Borough of Congleton, which are the heraldic colours of the Venables family, as do the Arms of Northwich where the ship shown above the shield shows on its mainsail the wyvern of the Venables family.

They held many other lands throughout Britain including Woodcote near Winchester, when, in 1677, the manor had been purchased by the Venables. The Venables family also purchased Antrobus Hall in Great Budworth sometime during the reign of King Henry IV - they resided here for many generations.

The Venables Family have a worldwide website and there are regular Venables family conventions held in England and in France. The Middlewich Festival, held in September each year, also acts as a gathering of the Venables family members from around the world.

Sources

  1. 1.00 1.01 1.02 1.03 1.04 1.05 1.06 1.07 1.08 1.09 1.10 1.11 1.12 1.13 1.14 1.15 1.16 The National Archives Website: Discovery: DVE/1/I I/8, VERNON COLLECTION; (Vernon of Kinderton, Warren of Poynton): INQUISITIONS POST MORTEM, http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/rd/3f58f699-a0da-4c3f-8e5b-37069dee5d25, 5 October 2014.
  2. 2.0 2.1 2.2 The National Archives Website: Discovery: DDX137 - Hugh Venables of Kinderton, Knight, https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/d4be0f7b-2939-4a8b-a96f-e9d48b55c73b, 11 July, 2022.
  3. 3.00 3.01 3.02 3.03 3.04 3.05 3.06 3.07 3.08 3.09 3.10 3.11 George Ormerod, "Containing the Hundreds of Northwich, Nantwich, and Macclesfield", The History of the County Palatine and City of Chester; Compiled from Original Evidences in Public Offices, the Harleian and Cottonian MSS, Parochial Registers, Private Muniments, Unpublished Ms Collections of Successive Cheshire Antiquaries, and a Personal Survey of Every Township in the County; Incorporated with a Republication of King's Vale Royal, and Leycester's Cheshire Antiquities, 2nd Edition, ed. Thomas Helsby, 3 volumes, (London: George Routledge and Sons, 1882), III:199, e-book, HathiTrust (https://hdl.handle.net/2027/coo.31924088434059?urlappend=%3Bseq=231%3Bownerid=13510798902306661-243 accessed 11 July, 2022).
  4. GB Historical GIS / University of Portsmouth, History of Kinderton, in Congleton and Cheshire | Map and description, A Vision of Britain through Time, URL: http://www.visionofbritain.org.uk/place/5016, accessed: 6th October 2014
  5. 5.0 5.1 The National Archives Website: Discovery: DVE - VERNON COLLECTION; (Vernon of Kinderton, Warren of Poynton): DVE/1/M - MARRIAGE SETTLEMENTS: DVE/1/B I/4 Grant from "Adam del Holde" to "Hugoi de Venables dno de Kynderton & Katrine uxi ej", https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/bab94382-c806-4148-ae40-7ac33e539853, 12 July, 2022.
  6. The National Archives Website: Discovery: DVE - VERNON COLLECTION; (Vernon of Kinderton, Warren of Poynton): DVE/1/M - MARRIAGE SETTLEMENTS: DVE/1/M/3 Grant by "mons Hugh de Venables de Kynderton" to "Thomas Fyton de Gouseworth", https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/768198b4-d18a-44e5-befc-8879f8f541b3, 12 July, 2022.
  7. Name Origin Research, "Venables", The Internet Surname Database, http://www.surnamedb.com/Surname/venables, accessed 6 October, 2014.

See also:

  • Earwaker, John Parsons, East Cheshire: Past and Present (London: Earwaker, 1877-80.), 1:51, 2:417, Los Angeles Public Library, Gen 942.71 E12 folio.
  • Ormerod, George, The History of the County Palatine and City of Chester (London: Lackington, Hughes, Mavor & Jones, 1819.), 1:523, Family History Library, 942.71 H2or.
  • Richards, W. S. G., The History of the De Traffords of Trafford, circa A.D., 1000-1893 (Plymouth, England: W. H. Luke, 1896. FHL US/CAN Film #823,879 Item 1.), p. 28, Family History Library.
  • Baines, Edward, The History of the County Palatine and Duchy of Lancaster (Manchester, England: John Heywood, 1888-1893.), 3:348, Family History Library, 942.72 H2bai.
  • Young, Henry James, The Blackmans of Knight's Creek (Carlisle, PA : H. J. Young, 1980.), p. 85, Family History Library, 929.273 B565y.
  • Ormerod, G., History of the County Palatine of Chester, 1:416, 2:628, 3:24.
  • Bagley, John J., The Earls of Derby, 1485-1985 (London: Sidgwick & Jackson, 1985.), p. 1, Family History Library, 929.242 St25b.
  • Roskell, John Smith, The History of Parliament: The House of Commons 1386-1421 (Stroud, Gloucestershire: Alan Sutton Pub. Ltd., 1992.), 3:305, Family History Library, 942 D3hp 1386-1421.
  • Richardson, Douglas, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families (Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2004.), 677, Family History Library, 942 D5rd.




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Please check birth date of oldest son, William. Is he in the right family? He appears to be older than his parents.
posted by Stephanie Ward
De Vanables-1 and Venables-86 appear to represent the same person because: same/similar dates and family
posted by Robin Lee
Please unlock his profile. He lived over 700 years ago...
http://www.celtic-casimir.com/webtree/18/37796.htm

Sir Hugh II De Venables of Kinderton, son of Hugh de Venables of Kinderton & Agatha De Vernon, married Katherine de Hoghton: Children Sir Hugh de Venables of Kinderton, Sir Richard de Venables & Joan de Venables. Several other sources as well. Could you take a look & see what you think?

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