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Bartrum shows Tangwystl as the daugther of Llywarch Goch and Tangwystl ferch Llywarch.[1] Goch is the Welsh word for "red".
Sharon Penman observed that the name"Tangwystl" Means "Pledge Of Peace". [2]
Warrington notes that Llywarch Goch, was Lord of Rhos [3] and other writers have suggested that for this reason, Rhos may be counted as Tangwystl's birth place. Weis also describexs Tangwystl Goch Verch Llywarch, Of Rhos as the daughter of Llywarch the Red of Rhos by Weis. [4]
Charles Cawley notes that Llywelyn, whose mistress Tangwystl became, was born in 1173, and that Tangwystl was probably born after that date.[5]
Wolcott observed that Tangwystl was born about 1180, the daughter of Llywarch Goch ap Iorwerth ap Cynan ap Llywarch Goch ap Llywarch Hwlbwrch. [6]
Tangwystl and Llywelyn had a son Gruffydd. Cawley estimates that Gruffydd was probably born before the 1205 wedding of Llywelyn and Joan. [5] Cawley believes there may have been a wife prior to Joan. If Gruffydd's conception took place in 1204, and Tangwystl was 18 at the time, her birth year would have been 1186. If Tangwystl was 15 at the time, a not uncommon occurrance, her birth year might have been 1189.
However, Tangwystl's mother is shown as dying in 1182, and that is the year selected as her estimated birth year.
The first mystress of Llywelyn the Great was Tangwystl, daughter of Llywarch "Goch" of Rhos and his wife. [5]
Tangwystl Goch ferch Llywarch Goch ap Iorwerth ap Cynan ap Llywarch Howlbwrch was the mistress of Llywelyn ab Iorwerth. [7] Boyer follows Bartrum, who noted that Tangwystl was the mistress of Llywelyn the Great and mother of his son Gruffudd and daughters Gwladus Ddu and Gwenllian, and possibly also Margred and Ellen.[8]
Cawley notes that Tangwystl, the daughter of llywarch "Goch" of Rhos and his wife [5] was the first of several mistresses of Llywelyn ap Iorwerth.
With Tangwystgil 1194-1198. Concubine. Tangwystgl means “pledge of peace.” Died after a fall brought on premature childbirth.[9]
While most writers assert that Tangwystl was one of several mistresses of Llywelyn, writing in 1823, William Warrington believed that Tangwystl and Llywelyn were married. Prince Llewelyn, in his youth, had married Tangwystl, daughter of Llywarch Goch the lord of Rhos." [3]
Llywelyn died 11 Apr 1240, in today's Aberconwy, Arllechwedd Uchaf, Caernarvonshire, Wales [10]
Tangystl died Between 1201 and 1209 [11]
One writer indicates that she bled to death after a fall brought on premature childbirth. [10]
Some sources state that Tangwystl was the mother of most of Llywelyn's illegitimate children. Cawley in the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy, however, believes she is only the mother of one child, Gruffydd. [5]
Boyer, following Bartrum, names two children of Tangwystl and Llywelyn:
Bartrum himself gives a longer list: Tangwystl, the mistress of Llywelyn the Great, was the mother of his son Gruffudd . She was also the mother of the following daughters:
Boyer lists an additional daughter:
Issue of Tangwystl and Llewlyn the Great:[1]
Gruffydd ap Llywelyn[3] (c.1196-1244)[13] m. Senena[14] Issue.[15]
Cawley names several other illegitimate children of LLywelyn who are sometimes thought to be the children of Tangwystl, but whom Cawley believes were the children of up to six other mistresses whose names have become lost. [5]
Peter Cotgreave's study outlines a possible chain of events by which Tangwystl became Tanglust. [16]
"In about 1200, Pope Innocent III mistakenly believed that the Welsh prince Llywelyn had previously been married to a sister of Ranulf II, earl of Chester. The only woman he coul dhave meant -- the mother of Llywelyn's children, sometimes called his wife -- was called Tangwystl. The coincidence of an unuaual name with the suggestion that she was a sister of Earl ranulf storngly point to this being the woman whom Whitgrave believed had married his ancestor. In fact, she was not the earl's sister and her association with the Belwards was probably caused by confusion about a later marriage; the genuine Tangwystl's grandson really did marry one of Belward's descendants and heirs in the barony" of Malpas. [16]
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My family are from Rhos; all of my mother's side have red hair.
edited by Judith Williams
Goch-14 and Ferch Llywarch-3 appear to represent the same person because: these are duplicate profiles; LNAB is ferch Llywarch
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