Born in North Carolina
Ancestors 
Son of Johann (Wahl) Wall III
and Margaret (Shell) Wall
Brother of
Conrad (Wahl) Wall
Husband of
Dorcas (Maddox) Mattox
— married
about 1765 [location unknown]
Descendants 
Father of
Darcas Mattox (Wall) Grimes and Daniel (Wahl) Walls
Died
at about age 100
in Montgomery, Virginia, United States
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Biography
John (Wahl) Wall IV served with Virginia Line during the American Revolution.
- Left in comment section by Leslie Wall, 28 November 2018:
- John Wall married Margaret Shell, it was John Wall Sr Widow Margaret Unknown who remarried Nicholas Sollas (Sallust) and they had one son James who married Margaret Shell. John Sr. was not a rev soldier ( he died prior to the rev. War.,his son John Jr. guarded the lead mines so he was a patriot. Conrad Wall Sr, brother of John Sr. had a son named John as well, who married Dorcus Mattox ,his brother Adam married her sister Mary Anne Mattox. John Wall JR. is the most likey John Wall that could have had a son named Daniel that married Sarah Harless. Daniel & Sarah eventually moved to Alabama and started the Wall(s) line there.
- John Wall IV, a soldier in the Montgomery County, Virginia Militia during the Revolutionary War, serving in John Cox's Company in 1782 [1][2] SAR Index: NSSAR No 159957/TXSSAR No 9149.
Marriage and Children
- Dubious information | John Wall's wife was Sarah and he died in Montgomery Co. in 1823. According to Ray E. Walls, his father John Wall III (who died there in 1761) married Margaret Shell, daughter of Jacob Shell. Margaret's sister Elizabeth Shell married John's brother Conrad Wall.
Military
- Name: Joh Wall
- Rank - Induction: Serjt
- Roll Box: 95
- Roll State: VA[3]
- Dubious information| SAR Index: NSSAR No 159957/TXSSAR No 9149
- A direct descendant of John Wall's son Daniel Walls, Ray Edward Walls, Ph.D., is a member of the Sons of the American Revolution (SAR Index: NSSAR No 159957/TXSSAR No 9149) and is also the Secretary General of the National Society of the War of 1812. National number is 5639 and Texas number is 310.
Sources
- ↑ Militia of Montgomery County, Virginia, 1777-1790, by Mary B. Kegley, pp. 10, 38, 45.
- ↑ Revolutionary War Soldiers Upper New River Valley
- ↑ U.S. Revolutionary War Rolls, 1775-1783
- U.S. Revolutionary War Rolls, 1775-1783 database on-line. Revolutionary War Rolls, 1775-1783; (National Archives Microfilm Publication M246, 138 rolls); War Department Collection of Revolutionary War Records, Record Group 93; National Archives, Washington. D.C. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2007.
- Revolutionary War Soldiers Upper New River Valley 1782 September 6 Militia List for Elk Creek, Grayson County (then Montgomery)
- Bennett, William D., EARLY SETTLEMENT ALONG THE NEW RIVER (NC AND VA) BASIN
- Virginia's Soldiers in the Revolution
- Selected Montgomery County Virginia Marriage Register 1777-1853
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DNA Connections
It may be possible to confirm family relationships with John by comparing test results with other carriers of his Y-chromosome or his mother's mitochondrial DNA. However, there are no known yDNA or mtDNA test-takers in his direct paternal or maternal line. It is likely that these autosomal DNA test-takers will share some percentage of DNA with John:
It may be possible to confirm family relationships with John by comparing test results with other carriers of his Y-chromosome or his mother's mitochondrial DNA. However, there are no known yDNA or mtDNA test-takers in his direct paternal or maternal line. It is likely that these autosomal DNA test-takers will share some percentage of DNA with John:
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Kathy Hays
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Carol (Rudd) Thompson :
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~0.39%
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Unmerged matches › John Wall Jr. (abt.1745-bef.1827)
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John Wall of Conrad Sr. married Elizabeth Betsy Ott (Utt) signed in GERMAN SCRIPT Betsy Ott mentioned in the record of John Wall and Betsy Ott Name John Wall Spouse's Name Betsy Ott Event Date 08 Jun 1816 Event Place Montgomery County, Virginia Citing this Record "Virginia Marriages, 1785-1940," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XR8N-F5Z : 5 December 2014), John Wall and Betsy Ott, 08 Jun 1816; citing Montgomery County, Virginia, reference P 151; FHL microfilm 32,633. No image available Virginia Marriages, 1785-1940 Indexing Project (Batch) Number M86878-8 System Origin Virginia-EASy GS Film number 32633 Reference ID P 151 New Adventures on the Western Waters Vol II p 199, by Mary B. Kegley Montgomery County Marriage Bonds 1812-1818 reel 41 june 8 1816 John Wall and Betsy Ott, surity Henry Ott signed in GERMAN SCRIPT
Margaret Shell who married james Sallest had sister Phanney Schell who was the 1st wife of Conrad Wall Jr. The Shell Sketch mentions Conrad as Fanny's husband. Father Jacob Shell's will mentions Fanny Wall on 17 Feb 1795. The order in the will might suggest she was younger than sister Gertrude(1745) but older than Mary/Mollie(<1762). Unsourced roots-web entries show her born about 1748. Fanny may have died not long after her mention in Jacob's will. A 1796 Montgomery County, VA land transaction has Conrad and wife 'Elizabeth' (WE NOW KNOW IS RIFFE or Rife) deeding to James Sallis. It would follow that Elizabeth was probably the female b. 1770-1775 from Conrad's 1810-1830 Census. She was Conrad's second wife.
Early Adventures on the Western Waters , Vol 1 Vol II by Mary B. Kegley & F. B. Kegley p.366 Quote"James Sallust was the son of Nicholas and Margaret Sallust. His mother was the widow of John Wall Sr. of Augusta Count (later became Montgomery Co. ) and James Sallust had 2 step brothers (Sic half brothers (Adam & which later in books she rectifies) who settled on the east side of New River near Stroubles Creek" ... The marriage bond of James and Margaret Shell was dated Nov 4 1780 with Adam Wall as surety (Montgomery Co. Marriages)