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Radulph (Warenne) de Warenne (abt. 1012 - abt. 1074)

Radulph (Ralf II) de Warenne formerly Warenne
Born about in Francemap
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Died about at about age 62 in Varenne near Bellencombre seine Inferieure, Normandy, Francemap
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Biography

Note

Note: ref: Wikipedia (http://www.wikipedia.org) (16 May 10) -
Rudolf II de Warenne, son of Rudolf I of Warenne, was a Norman aristocrat and progenitor of the Earl of Surrey family line.
He is known only from his subscriptions to two charters of his father for the Holy Trinity of Rouen. As his father's lands near Rouen and in the Pays de Caux did not pass to his son William or William's descendants, it is likely that Rodulf succeeded to them on his father's death.
The de Warenne family originated from Normandy, France. The de Warenne surname derives from the castle of that name on the Varenne River, which flows through the territory William acquired in Upper Normandy.
He married Emma in or before 1059 - both were still living in 1074, and had several children including;
 ? Rudolf III de Warenne - who inherited most of the family lands in Normandy.
 ? William de Warenne, 1st Earl of Surrey - who fought with William the Conqueror at the Battle of Hastings and was rewarded with vast land holdings as the Earl of Surrey.
 ? possibly Frederick de Warenne - who was killed by Hereward the Wake. He is listed in the Domesday book holding lands in Cambridgeshire and Norfolk. (Domesday, ff.196, ii.465b, 170b, 172b). Another source lists Frederick as the brother of William's wife, Gundred.

Research notes

There seem to be some problems with the early de Warennes. (Wikitree is following the proposals of Keats-Rohan, not earlier works.[1]

The Complete Peerage[2] has the following:

Rodulfus/Radulfus/Ralph de Warenne, parentage unknown, birth not stated. Married (1) Beatrice whose mother was almost certainly a sister of Gunnor, 2nd wife of Richard I, Duke of Normandy. She was living about 1053. Married (2) Emma, parentage unknown. He and his second wife were living in 1074. Rudolf de Warenne II is described as by the first wife of Rodulfus (above) and eldest son and heir. States that he likely married and left issue but they are not mentioned.

William de Warenne 1st Earl of Surrey, was a younger son of Rudolf and his first wife, and brother of Ruldof de Warenne II. He was born well before his father married his second wife Emma. Married (1) Gundred, sister of Gerbod the Fleming, Earl of Chester. She died 27 May 1085 Castle Acre, Norfolk. Married (2) unnamed sister of Richard Guet (possibly Marie as noted by Medlands[3]).

Sources

  1. K. S. B. Keats-Rohan, Aspects of Robert of Torigny's genealogies revisited", Nottingham Medieval Studies, 37 (1993) p.21. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/285148810_Aspects_of_Robert_of_Torigny's_Genealogies_Revisited
  2. Cokayne, George E. The Complete Peerage of England… London: St. Catherine Press, 1910, Vol. XII, pp.491-94
  3. Cawley, Charles. "Medieval Lands" http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLISH%20NOBILITY%20MEDIEVAL.htm#_Toc388773409




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as they where known to have many children

see "He married Emma probably around 1040 A.D. - both were still living in 1074, and had several children. Rudolf's children were probably born closer to the year 1040 or earlier as William as active at the Battle of Castle Mortemer in 1052-1054." http://familypedia.wikia.com/wiki/Rodulf_II_de_Warenne_(1030-1074) (site has References) it is possible wikitree profile Balliol-25 maybe a son. i have a Y67 Warren Y DNA Match at a Genetic Distance of 7 who is also one of my BIG Y Matches i am working on this

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