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Alice (Warenne) de Arundel (abt. 1287 - bef. 1338)

Alice de Arundel formerly Warenne aka de Warenne, FitzAlan
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Wife of — married after 30 Dec 1304 in Englandmap [uncertain]
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Died before before about age 50 in Englandmap [uncertain]
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Biography

Alice de Warenne was the daughter of William Warenne, Knt. of Bromfield, Yale and Dinas Bran, Denbighshire and Joan de Vere.[1][2] Her father died in December 1286. Cawley estimates that Alice was born in May/June 1287 and assumes "that she was born posthumously as there was insufficient time for her birth between her parents' marriage and the birth of her brother, but no proof has been found that this is correct".[3]

Marriage and Children

Alice married to Edmund FitzAlan,[3] 9th Earl of Arundel,[1] after 30 December 1304[2][4] "while [Edward was] still a minor".[5] Edmund, born at Marlborough Castle on 1 May 1285, son and heir of of Richard Fitzalan (or de Arundel), Knt., 8th Earl of Arundel, and Alice of Saluzzo,[5] was "of Arundel, Sussex, Acton Round, Clun, Oswestry, Shrawardine, and Wroxeter, Shropshire, Chipping Norton, Oxfordshire, etc., Chief Butler of England".[2][6]
Alice's marigarium included the manors of High Roding, Margaretting, Ovesham Hall, Prittlewell, and Woolston, Essex.[2]
Alice and Edmund had four sons and six daughters:
  • Richard, Knt., Earl of Arundel and Surrey,[6] aka "Copped Hat",[3][5] son and heir, born about 1314, died 24 January 1375/6, married first Isabel le Despenser and second to Eleanor of Lancaster[2]
  • John,[6] occurs 1373[2]
  • Edmund, Treasurer of Chichester,[6] Warden of the Hospital at of St. Nicholas, Portsmouth, clerk, died before 24 March 1348[2]
  • Michael, clerk[2][6]
  • Eleanor, died before 30 March 1347, married first William de St. John, second Sir Gerard de Lisle, 1st Lord Lisle[2][6]
  • Alice, married Sir John de Bohun, Earl of Hereford and Essex, Constable of England[2][6]
  • Katherine, died before 23 May 1376, married first Sir Henry Hussee (or Huse), 2nd Lord Husee, second to Sir Andrew Peverel[2][6]
  • Aline, married Sir Roger le Strange, 5th Lord le Strange of Knockin[2][6]
  • Elizabeth, died 11 March 1384, married William le Latimer, K.G., 4th Lord Latimer[2][6]
  • Mary, married Sir John le Strange, 4th Lord le Strange of Blackmere[2][6] (see Research Note below).

Edmund's Death

Edmund, Earl of Arundel "was captured in Shropshire by Queen Isabel's party and beheaded without a trial at Hereford" on 17 November 1326,[2][6] aged 42 years.[5] He was attainted and his estates and honours were forfeited.[2][5] Edmund was initially buried at the Franciscan church at Hereford, but after appeals to the Queen and her son Edward, Edmund's remains were removed and reburied at Haughmond Abbey, Shropshire.[2]
In 1327, Alice was granted the manor of Maplederwell, Hampshire by the king and he soon after made other provisions for Alice and her children.[2]
In 1330/1, Richard Fitz Alan, called "Copped Hat," son and heir of Edmund was fully restored in blood and honours (confirmed 1351 and again 1354), and in December 1330 obtained restitution of the Castle and Honour of Arundel from the widow of the Earl of Kent.[5]

Death

Alice was still living in 1330 and died before 23 May 1338.[2][5] She was buried in the church of the Black Friars, London, next to her two grandchildren, William and Jane Husee.[2][6]

Research Notes

Daughter Mary

See this page for a discussion of the father of Mary (married le Strange): Edmund or Richard.[7]

Surname

Fitz Alan/de Arundel: Richardson notes for Edmund's father: "Earl Richard Fitz Alan above, his father and grandfather all employed the surname Fitz Alan. In the 1270's, Earl Richard's father was styled John "Fitz Alan de Arundel" in several records. In 1291 Earl Richard received a grant addressed to him as "Richard de Arundel, Earl of Arundel". Following the Earl Richard's death in 1302, the family dropped the surname Fitz Alan in favor of de Arundel (or simply Arundel ). The last known use of the name Fitz Alan by any member of this family dates c.1312–3, when Earl Richard's son, Edmund, brought a writ as "Edmund Fitz Alan".[6]

Sources

  1. 1.0 1.1 Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 2nd edition, 4 vols., ed. Kimball G. Everingham (Salt Lake City, Utah: the author, 2011), Vol. IV, pages 286-287 WARENNE #4.ii: Alice de Warenne
  2. 2.00 2.01 2.02 2.03 2.04 2.05 2.06 2.07 2.08 2.09 2.10 2.11 2.12 2.13 2.14 2.15 2.16 2.17 2.18 2.19 Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, (2011), Vol. II, pages 178-185 FITZ ALAN 5: Alice de Warenne.
  3. 3.0 3.1 3.2 Cawley, Charles. Alice de Warenne, entry in "Medieval Lands" database hosted by Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG). (accessed 11 April 2019). See also WikiTree's source page for MedLands.
  4. Calendar of the Patent Rolls. Edward I. AD 1301-1307. HMSO, 1898, p 308 HathiTrust.
  5. 5.0 5.1 5.2 5.3 5.4 5.5 5.6 Cokayne, George Edward ed. Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Vol. I: Ab Adam - Basing, 2nd edition. (London,1910). Online at Archive.org., 241-242: ARUNDEL.
  6. 6.00 6.01 6.02 6.03 6.04 6.05 6.06 6.07 6.08 6.09 6.10 6.11 6.12 6.13 Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 5 vols., ed. Kimball G. Everingham (Salt Lake City, Utah: the author, 2013), Vol. II, pages 599-607 FITZ ALAN #9, #10. Edmund de Arundel (or Fitz Alan), Knt.
  7. Some corrections and additions to the Complete Peerage: Volume 1: Arundel (accessed 29 March 2018).
  • Richardson, Douglas. Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 4 vols., ed. Kimball G. Everingham. 2nd edition. (Salt Lake City, UT: the author, 2011). See also WikiTree's source page for Magna Carta Ancestry.
  • Richardson, Douglas. Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 5 vols., ed. Kimball G. Everingham. (Salt Lake City, UT: the author, 2013). See also WikiTree's source page for Royal Ancestry.
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This profile was re-reviewed and approved for the Magna Carta Project by Thiessen-117 20:45, 15 March 2020 (UTC).
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Well, since I cannot edit or add because it is pre-1500, here is a source for Alice de Warenne's marriage to Edmund FitzAlan in 1305. G.E. Cokayne; with Vicary Gibbs, H.A. Doubleday, Geoffrey H. White, Duncan Warrand and Lord Howard de Walden, editors, The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant, Extinct or Dormant, new ed., 13 volumes in 14 (1910-1959; reprint in 6 volumes, Gloucester, U.K.: Alan Sutton Publishing, 2000), volume I, page 242.
posted by Carol Baldwin PhD RN
Information about Mary the wife of John le Strange as the daughter of Edmund,9th Earl of Arundel, can be found here http://www.medievalgenealogy.org.uk/cp/arundel.shtml
posted by John Atkinson
This Alice is shown b. 30-40 years after the parents died.
Rejected match: Alice Warenne Plantagenet-518 is the great aunt of Alice Warenne-97

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