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Elizabeth Warner (bef. 1774 - 1845)

Elizabeth Warner
Born before in Walkern, Hertfordshire, Englandmap
Ancestors ancestors
Wife of — married 5 Feb 1792 in Walkern, Hertfordshire, Englandmap
Descendants descendants
Died after age 70 [location unknown]
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Biography

Elizabeth Warner was born in 1774. She was the daughter of Henry Warner and Elizabeth Bilton. She was christened on 14 Aug 1774 at Walkern, Hertford, England.[1]

She married Thomas Aylott on 1 Mar 1792 at Walkern, Hertfordshire, England.[2][3]


Sources

  1. "England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JW2Z-D3G : 11 February 2018, Elizabeth Warner, 14 Aug 1774); citing WALKERN, HERTFORD, ENGLAND, index based upon data collected by the Genealogical Society of Utah, Salt Lake City; FHL microfilm 991,399.
  2. "England Marriages, 1538–1973", database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N6N1-DJ9 : 13 March 2020), Elizabeth Warner in entry for Thomas Aylott, 1792.
  3. Hertfordshire : Walkern : St Mary the Virgin : Parish Register : "Parish Register" database, FreeREG (https://www.freereg.org.uk/search_records/6305d6c2f493fd13e163e54e : viewed 28 Sep 2023) marriage Thomas Aylott to Elizabeth Warner 01 Mar 1792

Acknowledgements

  • Warner-4005 was created by Lisa Bridson through the import of Family Tree.ged on Jun 8, 2015.




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Warner-14243 and Warner-4005 appear to represent the same person because: Clear duplicate.
posted by Anna (Conway) Strutt
Unclear why this is "clear duplicate". Birth dates are different, this Elizabeth would need to be 18 at marriage. No proof of date of birth or age on other Elizabeth. Needs more research.
posted by Lisa Bridson
Same christening date and parents. 1792-1774=18
posted by Anna (Conway) Strutt
edited by Anna (Conway) Strutt
I am still not sure what evidence there is. An Elizabeth Warner did marry Thomas Aylott on 5 Feb 1792 in Walkern, and an Elizabeth Warner was born in 1774, the daughter of Henry Warner and Elizabeth Bilton, but there is nothing to indicate that they are the same people. How do you know they are the same person? Adding the same records or family members to two profiles is not evidence. Another Elizabeth Warner married William Parker in 1791 in the same town. How do you know that this isn't the Elizabeth Warner born 1774? Some examples of evidence, a fathers name or age on a marriage record (or even her being recorded as a minor - which is not the case here), a census record with an age, a death record or gravestone with some more details, a DNA match (which at this distance would have to be a triangulation). I can find none of these. I think you have mentioned a DNA match, but this hasn't been added to either profile. They may be the same person, but there is no evidence. When there is actual evidence, I will happily merge these two profiles.
posted by Lisa Bridson
edited by Lisa Bridson
Lisa, I fear that any amount of evidence will not be enough to satisfy you that they are the same person. As I said before, same parents, same birth/christening date, same spouse. If every profile required DNA triangulation, death record in addition proof of the same parents, birth, spouse none of us would get very far on wikitree. You will notice that she /Warner -4005 now has 50+ profiles attached to her thanks to my hard work and the work of others. Please don't dismiss this. Her mother, Elizabeth Bilton was my fourth or fifth great grandmother and as I said before I have many DNA relations to her.

I am not going to do any more work on Warner-14243 because I believe they are the same person (they are certainly intended to be) and it's proven by the evidence that's there. I will not discuss this any more.

posted by Anna (Conway) Strutt
Warner-4003 and Warner-4005 do not represent the same person because: I think I had incorrectly added christening information to one of these Elizabeths, my apologies. The first died 4 years before the second was born. As was common in those days, the next daughter would be named after their deceased older sister.
posted by Lisa Bridson
Warner-4003 and Warner-4005 appear to represent the same person because: The source for the christening supports that both Elizabeth Warners were christened on 14 Aug. They have the same parents also.

I have a DNA match with this person and data also supports that she died 3 Jul 1845.

posted by Anna (Conway) Strutt

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