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Robert Waters (abt. 1767 - 1818)

Robert Waters
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Son of [father unknown] and [mother unknown]
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Husband of — married 20 Nov 1791 (to 19 Jul 1818) in Barn Elms, Barnes, Surrey, Englandmap
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Died at about age 51 in Barnes, Surrey, Englandmap
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A farm laborer, he lived at Barnes, Surrey and worked at the Manor House "Barn Elms", Surrey, England. He died of a farm accident, fell off haystack and broke neck, and buried in Surrey with wife Mary White. Barn Elms: the former Manor House, Barn Elms stood on the eastern side of the pronounced bend in the river that encloses the Barnes Peninsular. It was part of the demesne (a house & land belonging to a Lord and used by him) estate, which extended to Barnes Common in the south and the road to Elswick Ferry in the west. The lease of the estate was held by Sir Francis Waslingham, the Secretary of State of Queen Elizabeth 1st, between 1579 & 1590. There are two farms of the estate, Home Farm on the East of the peninsular near the manor house and Windmill Farm to the west. Robert would have worked on one of these two farms. Barn Elms Mansion Two great houses have been built here but it is not clear when the later (which burnt down in 1954) replaced the earlier. The original house had the surround of elms that was remarkable enough to give this name to the estate. The occupants can be traced from 1467. Perhaps the most famed occupant was Sir Francis Walsingham (about 1530-90) to whom Queen Elizabeth I granted her interest in the property so that he retired here in about 1579. One of her most able and least corrupt ministers and originator of the state secret service, Elizabeth gave him little else so that he died a pauper, buried in the night at St Paul's. His surviving daughter, Frances, was a well married lady. She married first Sir Philip Sidney (1554-86), then Robert Devereux, 2nd Earl of Essex (1566-1601) which slightly disturbed his queen's favor, and finally the Earl of Clanricarde. That last marriage was brief. She died here in 1602 and was also buried in St Paul's but not as a pauper. Other occupants have included: the Cartwright family from 1639 to about 1750; briefly by John James Heydegger (who was Master of the Revels to George II); then by the Hoare family (who were bankers) for some 40 years; from whom via the Hammersmith Bridge Company and a number of others it became the home of the Ranelagh Club.

Burial Information Collected at Surrey History Society in June 2008. Microfische # 132 - 1813-1886 Robert Waters - Barnes - July 19th 1818 - 52 yrs - Rev L Kemp.

At a vestry held this 27th day of Dec 1809 to settle the account of Mrs, Mary Wright's Legacy of 24 Pounds, 14 Shillings & 8 pence (24/14/8) per year, also other parish business.

The yearly interest, called shrove money, was disbursed in the following way: W Kempley - for repairing the tomb 9/2 Various charities 24/5/6 Robert Waters, a non parishioner, received 7/-

At a vestry held this 8th day of Jan 1811 to settle the account of Mrs, Mary Wright's Legacy, also other parish business. Robert Waters, a non parishioner, received 7/-

At a vestry held this 26th day of Dec 1811 to settle the account of Mrs, Mary Wright's Legacy, also other parish business. No Robert Waters mentioned.

At a vestry held this 17th day of Dec 1812 to settle the account of Mrs, Mary Wright's Legacy, also other parish business. Robert Waters, a non parishioner, received 7/-

At a vestry held this 30th day of Dec 1813 to settle the account of Mrs, Mary Wright's Legacy, also other parish business. No Robert Waters mentioned.

NOTE: Barnes Surrey. At a vestry held on the 10th day of Aug 1783 to make an aferfurment for the necessary relief of the poor, notice of which was published in church the preceding Sunday. Resolved: That the aferfument of 2/6 in the pound be forthwith made on the inhabitants of this parish for & towards the necessary relief of the poor of this parish and for such other purposes as arises in useful acts as out parliament mentioned. This afferment is made for six months from Lady Day next to Christmas Day next. Thomas Waters was an Overseer or Church Warden from this date until 6th June 1785. John Waters appears at vestry meeting on 27th August 1785 as being present. An afferment of 2/- in the pound was raised from Lady Day next to Michaelmas. John last appeared in vestry 1st July 1786. He did however give Lds 3/3/0 voluntary contribution towards the enlargement of the church on 21st March 1788. He was still appearing until at least 4th April 1805. Who is this Miss Wright? A40..... In memory of JOSEPH BUNTING of Wirksworth who died 8th Oct 1885 aged 62 years. For 35 years a faithful servant of the late Miss WRIGHT of Wirksworth Moor also ELIZABETH wife of the above who died 10th Oct 1885 aged 63 years.(Limestone headstone) From WIRKSWORTH Parish Records 1600-1900 Updated 12 Oct 2000 WIRKSWORTH--Memorial Inscriptions--Cemetery


Monumental Inscriptions from Wirksworth CEMETERY-----

From: Richard Soar Sent: Thursday, 8 July 2004 9:02 Subject: RE: Barn Elms link ?

Hello, That's interesting. Firstly the church was probably St Mary's which burned down in the 1970s and I'm not sure whether much of the churchyard remains intact. I will check next time I'm in the area and send a photo if the headstone is still there. Secondly the best guide to Nurserymen such as James Lee was a small paperback produced by a local history society. I have a large amount to do in the way of further research, as well as mending the broken links on the website. It will have to wait until September unfortunately,but if and when I locate anything relevant for you I will forward it. I recently located three maps from the 1700s of Barn Elms in a Record Office so will upload those in due course. I had hoped that they would show other dwelling houses alleged to be on the Estate, but no joy. Barn Elms farm had a separate house and I'm sure that some persons said to have lived at or owned Barn Elms actually resided on the farm. Anyway I'll keep in touch. If you're able to send a copy of any relevant paragraphs in the correspondence about your relative and Barn Elms I'd be delighted to see it. Kind regards, Richard Soar

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