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Giles Webb (abt. 1600 - aft. 1667)

Giles Webb
Born about in Englandmap
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Husband of — married [date unknown] [location unknown]
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Died after after about age 67 in Nansemond County, Colony of Virginiamap
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Biography

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Giles Webb was a Virginia colonist.

Giles Webb[1] was born in England possibly about 1600. His parents are at this time unconfirmed. He passed away after 1667 in Nansemond County, Virginia Colony. He is last found in records in reference to a land grant dated 16 February 1667.

Webb arrived in Upper Norfolk County before 1646 as a headright of Thomas Babe. Babe filed a patent for transport of 6 persons to Upper Norfolk on 6 October 1646.[2] Giles may have made several trips to and from England. He is listed as headright twice for Robert Tomlin on 13 December 1653; once by Thomas Todd on 27 October 1652; once by John Gillett on 4 February 1653; Giles once and wife twice by Arthur Hooper on 18 February 1664.[2]

Giles Webb resided at Chuckatuck, on the boundary of Isle of Wight and Nansemond Counties. "Very little is known about his life since records of Nansemond County have been lost or destroyed and a will has never been found. There is, however, a deed of James Webb of Isle of Wight County dated November 5, 1706 and recorded in Richmond County (formerly part of Rappahannock County) conveying one-half part of 681 acres of land that had been granted to 'Mr. Giles Webb, 16 February 1667.' Another deed, dated 27 November 1715 between the same parties, conveys the other half and further states that Giles Webb was the grandfather of James Webb."[3]

The 681 acres in Lancaster County on the north side of Rappahannock River, was granted to Toby Smith, Gent., 10 March 1652 and sold to Giles Webb 5 February 1653.[3]

Giles Webb was a burgess for Upper Norfolk/Nansemond County[4] in 1657-1658,[5] and in 1659/1660.[6]

Webb was named in the will of his sister "Margery Cox of Deptford, Kent, England, widow, whose brother, Giles Webb, was in Virginia." June 1656 [7]

On 5 January 1646 Thomas Hinson of Isle of Wight, Virginia, signed two notes stating he owed Giles Webb "of Nancemume, Plantr" 864 pounds of tobacco and 104 pounds of tobaco, both due "by the 20th of Oct. next...."[8]

Marriages & Children

Giles Webb appears to have married in England before his transport to Virginia. The name of his wife is unknown, but is suggested as Elizabeth Unknown. The birthplaces of their children are undocumented, possibly one or more in England.

Webb arrived in Virginia Colony unaccompanied by a wife so it is possible she died in England. The late marriage dates of the three younger sons of Giles indicates he may have married a second time in Virginia. He is believed to have had four sons:

  1. James Webb, b c 1620, perhaps in Gloucestershire, England, where he married and had at least two children. Records indicate he died at Chuckatuck before 17 February 1675.
  2. John Webb, b c 1645, md 1672, Mary Sanford, Nansemond County, Virginia
  3. Isaac Webb, b v 1650, md 1678, Mary Bidwell [?], Nansemond County, Virginia
  4. Giles Webb, son of Giles of Chuckatuck, b c 1655, was married to Margaret ____, who was Executrix of his will - 3 August 1692 in Richmond County.[9] [10]

Research Notes

More than one "Giles Webb" has been conflated into this profile. Information related to those who do not belong to the Giles Webb born about 1600 will be re-located to this section. (Strutton-11 16:35, 17 September 2022 (UTC))

There is no evidence this Giles Webb was son of Richard Webb and Jane Unknown. (Strutton-11 16:51, 21 September 2022 (UTC))

This Giles Webb was not the father of Giles Webb, of Henrico County, who died in 1713, and of Thomas Webb, of the city of Gloucestershire, England, gentleman, who was alive in 1718. He may have been grandfather, unconfirmed.[11] Giles Webb of Henrico County who died in 1713 married Sarah Swann, widow of Henry Randolph. He died without issue and left his estate to his wife and brother Thomas in England.[10] [12] (Strutton-11 16:35, 17 September 2022 (UTC))

In 1685 "Charles Stewart and Giles Webb play dice and Giles wins 500 lbs. of tobacco" (Possibly Giles who died 1713.)[13]

1692/Oct - Giles Webb was commander of a body of rangers in Henrico County; (Possibly Giles who died 1713.)[14]

Emigration: 6 October 1646 in Upper Norfolk County, VA. Note: From England as headright of Thomas Babe[15]

Between 1658 and 1660 Giles (age about 48) was employed in Burgess of Mansemond County, VA. [15]

Notes from external profile

Some sources list him as being born in 1620 and being the son of Richard, son of William Micajah. Another source states, “For now we don't know his heritage. He CANNOT be the son of Richard born in 1603.”
The Webbs of Gloucestershire, England, were in the business of making cloth.
There are many Giles Webbs in the records; it seems to be a popular family name. A Giles Webb, son of Giles at Bisley, was christened in 1608; another Giles Webb, son of John at Gloucester, was christened in 1610. Either one of these could be our first American ancestor.
Giles Webb immigrated from England to Upper Norfolk County, Virginia on Oct.6, 1646 as a headright of Thomas Babe. He was a Burgess of Mansemond County (formerly Upper Norfolk) 1658-60. He patented 681 acres on the Rappahannock River March 16, 1667. This land was handed down to his grandson, James Webb, of Isle of Wight County. He sold the land in two parcels, November 5, 1706, and November 27, 1715. The second deed described the patentee as the "grandfather of James Webb."[16][17]

Giles was likely born in Gloucestershire, England in the early 1600's. Giles came to this country in 1629 on board the ship "Thomas Babe" which landed in upper Norfolk County, Giles established his residence at Chuckatuck, Virginia on the boundary of Isle of Wright and Nansemond Couties. Giles was a Burgess of Nansemond Couty 1658-1650, This information was obtain from Jo Smith Webb's book entitled "Linkage" January 1648-1649 Court Cases of Virginia; Case 1: Roger Lawrence and others, Masters and Proprietors of the ship the John and Isaac versus Giles Webb. The ship at had arrived at Virginia the previous October and had been loaded with tobacco, but was caught in a storm on February 25, having to throw 30 to 40 Hogshead of tobacco overboard, with the consent of the planters and passengers with her. August 2 1652; Claim of Giles Webb for loss of 50 hogsheads of tobacco, not long after the seizure of the Golden Lion, Webb set sale for London in a New England Ship, but she too was captured by a French man-of-war, and carried off to St. Malo.

Issues to be checked

Generated by WikiTree AGC. This section should be removed when all issues have been looked at.

  • There is no source with source id 'S73'. GEDCOMPare typically does this when there is a source which is a record for a different person (such as the spouse). The ref is still added but is missing the source repository data.

Sources

  1. Webb, Giles - A8504; died after 1667; Upper Norfolk Co.: 1658-60; Nansemond Co.: 1661-62 (Burgess). accessed 7 November 2021
  2. 2.0 2.1 Nugent, Nell Marion, Abstracted and Indexed by. Cavaliers and Pioneers: Abstracts of Virginia Land Patents and Grants, 1623-1800. In Five Volumes. Richmond, VA.: Press of the Dietz Printing Co., 1935. Page 165, 227, 274, 282, 450
  3. 3.0 3.1 Webb Families of the Virginias. by Ronald Ray Turner. Copyright 1983, 1994, 2007. Ch. 1, pages 1, 3; Ch. 2, page 5
  4. Upper Norfolk became Nansemond County in 1645, but some records still used the name "Upper Norfolk" as late as 1660.
  5. McIlwaine, H. R. and J. P. Kennedy, Editors. Journals of the House of Burgesses of Virginia. 13 Volumes. Richmond, Virginia, 1905-1915. Editors: vols. 1-9, H. R. McIlwaine; v. 10-13, J. P. Kennedy. Vol. 1, page xxiii
  6. McIlwaine, Vol. 2, page vii
  7. Ancestry Image, American Wills & Administrations
  8. Proceedings of the County Courts of Kent (1648-1676); Vol. 54, Page 125
  9. [Webb Families of the Virginias, Ch. 2, page 4-5
  10. 10.0 10.1 Tyler, Lyon G. Tyler's Quarterly Historical and Genealogical Magazine. Richmond, Va.: Richmond Press, Inc., Printers, 1926. Vol. VII, page 193, 194, 195
  11. Tyler, Lyon Gardiner. Encyclopedia of Virginia Biography. Volume I. New York: Lewis Historical Publishing Company 1915. Digitized by the Internet Archive in 2008.Page 354
  12. Register Containing The Baptisms Made In The Church Of The French Refugees At Mannikin-town In Virginia, In The Parish Of King William, 1721
  13. Henrico County Records (1677-1692) orig. p 313
  14. Calendar of State Papers of Virginia, I, 43
  15. 15.0 15.1 Employment: Missing source ID S73. (accessed before 12 October 2022)
  16. Source: #S56
  17. Source: #S73

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Acknowledgments

  • This person was created through the import of Weaver.ged on 03 January 2011.

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A cursory examination of the birth dates in this line indicate unrealistic dates, fathering a son at the age of 3, it it is a line of interest for me, as supposedly it is my maternal grandfather’s lineage. I am also keenly aware how much wild speculation has been brought into the Virginia Webb line … some of it published long ago. Real documentation is almost nonexistent for these ancestors at this time and any that is found is very welcome. I regret I lost track of the sizable research files my mother had from a Webb family reunion in Arkansas in the early 1980’s. If I ever find it, I will happily share for what it is worth.
posted by William Jackson
Giles Webb b.1600 (Webb-440): Parents can Not be Richard b. 1603 & Jane b. 1599.

Also, one Bio says that he came on ship "Thomas Babe". A list of the Puritan ships does NOT show that name. It must be the other story shown -where he was bonded to a Thomas Babe -that has some merit. I sure wish someone with good Ancestry search connections & capability could sort all of this out.

posted by Bob Cole
A search for Giles Webb b. abt 1600-1610 brings up 3 of them: Webb-7281, Webb-440 . . . and Webb-3706.

It appears the Webb-3706 is the son of Webb-7281 (and Webb-440) -Perhaps his death year is questionable. Please review - it's possible that they all could be the same person. There is too much of the same in them. A couple of the dates are possibly errors. Webb-7281 has the most data on it. It looks like he could have made more than one trip back to England, & may have had to be bonded again. One story says he left for England & was captured by the French. It may have left him with no means to get home other than being bonded.

posted on Webb-7281 (merged) by Bob Cole
edited by Bob Cole
Please provide your sources for the dates and relationships you indicate.
posted on Webb-25277 (merged) by Robin Lee
Webb-25277 and Webb-440 appear to represent the same person because: same parents and wife, many duplicate children
posted by Robin Lee
Webb-25277 and Webb-440 do not represent the same person because: too many children. I don't trust anything coming off of Ancestry.com
posted by [Living Webb]
Webb-25277 and Webb-440 appear to represent the same person because: ready for merge that was previously proposed
posted by Robin Lee
Webb-25277 and Webb-7281 appear to represent the same person because: identical dates
posted on Webb-7281 (merged) by Robin Lee
Webb-502 and Webb-440 appear to represent the same person because: birth/death dates differ and need to be reconciled. Much of information in biographies is the same, immigration to and life in Virginia, etc. These two should be merged and differing information reconciles.
Webb-1206 and Webb-440 appear to represent the same person because: Clear duplicate
posted by David Mortimer
American Wills database: Giles Webb who lives in Virginia named in the June 1656 will of sister Margery Cox (a widow) of Deptford, Kent England. Probate to Mary and Elizabeth Waight.

https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/48453/AmericanWillsAdmin-000677-73/353108

posted on Webb-502 (merged) by Beryl Meehan
I believe your Giles Webb is actually the same as Webb-440 (placed Captain as a first name) and Webb-1206 are the same person. Which need to be merged. You might want to check the dob.

I verified this on Charlene Vest Webb's ancestry.com page.

posted by Darlene Bora
Webb-440 (placed Captain as a first name) and Webb-1206 are the same person. These need to be merged.

I verified this on Charlene Vest Webb's ancestry.com page.

posted on Webb-1206 (merged) by Darlene Bora
You may not have noticed the merge request in the bottom left hand corner of this page. Please approve this merge. Thanks!
posted by Paula J

Rejected matches › Giles Webb (abt.1643-abt.1692)