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Alice (Unknown) Constable (abt. 1595 - 1647)

Alice Constable formerly [surname unknown]
Born about in Englandmap [uncertain]
Daughter of [father unknown] and [mother unknown]
[sibling(s) unknown]
Wife of — married 1614 in Englandmap
Descendants descendants
Died at about age 52 in Westminster, Middlesex, Englandmap
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This profile is protected to prevent the addition of unproven surnames. At present Alice's surname is unknown. Fitz-Henry-9 15:48, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

Biography

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Alice was may have been born in about 1595. This is a guess which assumes she was about 20 when her eldest child was born. Her last name at birth and parents are currently unknown (see Research Notes).

Alice married Francis Constable, probably soon after he completed his apprenticeship in July 1614. Their eldest child was baptised in September 1615.

Her marriage to a member of the Stationers' Company may provide a clue to Alice's origins, as it was common for men to marry a daughter of another member of the Company.

Alice had fifteen children in just sixteen years, all with Francis (see baptism/burial records on relevant child's profile):

  1. Alice (c.1615 - ?)
  2. Sarah (c.1617 - ?)
  3. Joan (c.1618 - ?)
  4. Mary (c.1619 - ?)
  5. Elizabeth (c.1620 - ?)
  6. Anne (c.1622 - ?)
  7. Margaret (c.1623 - ?)
  8. Rachel (c.1624 - 1624)
  9. Simon (c.1625 - 1627)
  10. Robert (twin) (c.1626 - 1626)
  11. Roger (twin) (c.1626 - 1626)
  12. Alice (c.1628 - ?)
  13. Frances (c.1629 - ?)
  14. Rachel (c.1630 - ?)
  15. Robert (c.1631 - 1647)

Alice Constable died on 4 August 1647, just three days after her husband. Son Robert died later that month. All three died of the plague.[1]

Alice's exact date of death is inferred from the fact that on 4 August 1647 she was granted Administration of her husband's estate. Alice would have been too ill to attend court, appointing one John Allen (probably the stationer of this name) to represent her.[2] But she must have still been alive (at least when proceedings commenced), as the Court would not have granted Administration to a deceased person. Also on 4 August 1647, Alice Constable's burial is recorded in the register of St Margaret's, Westminster.[1] Burial the same day as death was not unusual during epidemics of the plague.

Before she died, Alice made her will, which was proved before the Peculiar Court of the Dean and Chapter of Westminster on 22 September 1647. Her daughter and son-in-law Sarah and Anthony Savage, as well as unmarried daughters Mary, Frances and Rachel, all appeared before the court.[1]

On 17 February 1647/8, Richard Thale registered rights to 20 works that he had purchased from the Administrators of the estate of Alice Constable, which had previously belonged to Francis Constable. The entry lists the Administrators as being Anthony Savage, Mary, Frances and Rachel Constable.[3]

Research Notes

Very little is proven about the wife of Francis Constable. Trees on the internet show her maiden name as Wentworth, which is due to confusion with Alice Wentworth that married Robert Constable a century earlier. The last name of Owen is also found with no explanation of its origin.

Things are further confused by a totally unsourced Find a Grave Memorial that indicates:[4]

Alice Owen was born in 1595 in City of London, Greater London, England. She passed away on 4 Aug 1647 in City of Westminster, Greater London, England and was buried at St Margaret Churchyard, Westminster, City of Westminster, Greater London, England.

Dr Mark Bland has identified Alice, wife of Francis Constable, as being the daughter of Simon Waterson, Stationer. He advises that his forthcoming book, "The World of Simon Waterson, Stationer", will provide the evidence of this connection.[5] Donnelly-2171 08:09, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

Sources

  1. 1.0 1.1 1.2 Arthur Meredyth Burke (ed.), Memorials of St. Margaret's Church, Westminister, Comprising the Parish Registers, 1539-1660, and other Churchwardens' Accounts, 1460-1603. (London: Eyre & Spottiswoode, 1914) p. 616; Internet Archive (https://archive.org : accessed 8 November 2020).
  2. "Admon. of Francis Constable. August 1647. (Peculiar of the Dean and Chapter of Westminster Act Book)," image attached to family tree, Ancestry (https://www.ancestry.com : accessed 15 November 2020) Media.
  3. A Transcript of the Registers of the Worshipful Company of Stationers: 1640-1708 A.D. in Three Volumes: Volume 1 1640-1655 (London: 1913) p. 289; Internet Archive (https://archive.org : accessed 8 November 2020).
  4. Find A Grave: Memorial #102465747
  5. Mark Bland, to Nic Donnelly, email thread dated 12 November 2020, subject line "Alice, daughter of Simon Waterson"; personal correspondence privately held by Nic Donnelly, New Zealand.




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I will be working on Alice Constable (maiden name unknown) on behalf of the England Project, adding sources and re-writing the biography. If anyone has reliable sources to prove (or disprove) the relationships currently shown, please do add them to the profile. In particular, there is a circumstantial case that three of her children (Anne, Sarah and Rachel) emigrated to Virginia, but any additional reliable sources which support (or refute) this proposition would be very helpful. Also, any reliable sources proving Alice's maiden name would be most welcome. Thanks
posted by Nic Donnelly
"England, Middlesex Parish Registers, 1539-1988", database, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:89QS-BKT2 : 26 June 2020), Richard Owen in entry for Alice Owen, 1575.

This is the only record for an Alice Owen born to a Richard Owen in England during the time cited. This would make her too old to be the wife and mother of the Constable family.

posted on Owen-2604 (merged) by Robin Lee
Since 2014 I have asked for sources to prove this woman's name. All of the Lee of Virginia websites, all of the documentation on James Madison (US President), all reliable sources indicate that her name at birth is Unknown. The US Presidents Project would like to change her LNAB to Unknown and add the reliable sources to this profile. However, if this profile is intended to represent a real person, the daughter of Richard Owen, then we need to remove her as the wife and mother of the Constable family.
posted on Owen-2604 (merged) by Robin Lee
Wentworth-948 and Wentworth-2645 are not ready to be merged because: Last name at birth is not known and has no sources. Best to wait until either last name at birth is found, or determination made it should be Unknown
posted on Wentworth-2645 (merged) by S (Hill) Willson
Are there any sources other than FindAGrave showing her last name at birth was actually Owen? The FindAGrave profile has no sources supporting the information on her supposed birth parents. FindAGrave also shows her father as Robert, not Richard. Sources would really help.
posted on Owen-2604 (merged) by S (Hill) Willson
edited by S (Hill) Willson
Wentworth-2648 and Owen-2604 are not ready to be merged because: Last name at birth doesn't match. Could be different people.
posted on Owen-2604 (merged) by S O'Donley
Wentworth-2647 and Owen-2604 are not ready to be merged because: Last name at birth doesn't match. Could be different people.
posted on Owen-2604 (merged) by S O'Donley
Wentworth-2649 and Owen-2604 are not ready to be merged because: Last names don't match. Could be different people.
posted on Owen-2604 (merged) by S O'Donley
Wentworth-948 and Wentworth-2652 are not ready to be merged because: Last name should be Unknown, unless there are quality sources showing her last name was Wentworth.
posted on Wentworth-2652 (merged) by S (Hill) Willson
Wentworth-948 and Wentworth-2651 are not ready to be merged because: Last name should be Unknown, unless there are quality sources showing her last name was Wentworth.
posted on Wentworth-2651 (merged) by S (Hill) Willson
Wentworth-948 and Wentworth-2650 are not ready to be merged because: Last name should be Unknown, unless there are quality sources showing her last name was Wentworth.
posted on Wentworth-2650 (merged) by S (Hill) Willson
Wentworth-948 and Wentworth-2648 are not ready to be merged because: Last name should be Unknown, unless there are quality sources showing her last name was Wentworth.
posted on Wentworth-2648 (merged) by S (Hill) Willson
Wentworth-948 and Wentworth-2647 are not ready to be merged because: Last name should be Unknown, unless there are quality sources showing her last name was Wentworth.
posted on Wentworth-2647 (merged) by S (Hill) Willson
Wentworth-948 and Wentworth-2646 are not ready to be merged because: Last name should be Unknown, unless there are quality sources showing her last name was Wentworth.
posted on Wentworth-2646 (merged) by S (Hill) Willson
Wentworth-948 and Wentworth-2645 are not ready to be merged because: Last name should be Unknown, unless there are quality sources showing her last name was Wentworth.
posted on Wentworth-2645 (merged) by S (Hill) Willson
Wentworth-948 and Wentworth-2649 are not ready to be merged because: Last name should be Unknown, unless there are quality sources showing her last name was Wentworth.
posted on Wentworth-2649 (merged) by S (Hill) Willson
Are there any quality sources that show her last name at birth was Owen? If not, her LNAB should be changed to Unknown
posted on Owen-2604 (merged) by S (Hill) Willson
I am changing all the pending merges to Unmerged Match. It appears her last name should be Unknown rather than Wentworth.
posted on Wentworth-948 (merged) by S (Hill) Willson
Are there any quality sources that show her last name was actually Wentworth? The mother shown, Catherine Marbury, was married to Christopher Wentworth, but I find nothing to suggest they had a daughter, Alice or Agnes.

If there are no sources, her last name should be changed to Unknown.

posted on Wentworth-948 (merged) by S (Hill) Willson
The only documentation I could find on Alice Wentworth indicated that she married Robert Constable, not Francis.
posted on Owen-2604 (merged) by Robin Lee
Wentworth-948 and Owen-2604 do not represent the same person because: No info to support this. Both are listed as mothers of Anne Constable in merger into 37. Will defer to 37 owners.
posted on Owen-2604 (merged) by Lenny Darnell
Wentworth-948 and Owen-2604 appear to represent the same person because: This person needs some work as far as sources are concerned before doing the merge. It may be that this are two different people that had two daughters who have been confused.
posted on Owen-2604 (merged) by Robin Lee

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