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Hadewise (Windsor) de Hastings (abt. 1100)

Hadewise de Hastings formerly Windsor aka of Windsor
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Daughter of [father unknown] and [mother unknown]
[sibling(s) unknown]
Wife of — married about 1105 [location unknown]
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Biography

Note that the birth year is only meant as a very rough indication.

The name of William de Hasting's wife is not recorded in any document.

There is good reason to believe she was a sister of Maurice of Windsor, dapifer of Bury St Edmunds, because Maurice was avunculus (maternal uncle) to Ralf de Hastings.

The charter being referred to is as follows, and it clearly makes a distinction between the Latin words for paternal and maternal uncle.[1]

Henricus rex Anglorum et dux Normannorum et Aquietanorum et comes Andegauorum archiepiscopis. episcopis. comitibus. baronibus. iustic'. uicecomitibus. et ministris et omnibus hominibus suis francis et anglis salutem. Sciatis me concessisse et carta mea confirmasse Willelmo de Hastyngs dispensatori meo dapiferatum sancti Edmundi. Quare uolo quod idem Willelmus et heredes eius habeant et teneant dapiferatum illum bene et integre et in pace cum omnibus pertinenciis eius in liberacionibus et feodis et innominatim cum Legata et Bluneham et aliis locis et rebus eidem dapiferatui pertinentibus sicut Radulfus patruus eius eum melius habuit et tenuit uel Mauricius auunculus suus eiusdem Radulfi. Testibus. Willelmo Malet dapifero. lose [sic] de Baillol. Alano de Nouilla. Willelmo de Lanuolei. Hugone de Loncamp'. Hugone de Gondeuilla. Hugone de Piris. Waltero de Donstanuilla. Roberto filio Bernardi. Per manum Stephani capellani et cantoris mei. Apud Porcestram.

Research notes

The name Hadewise, which genealogists sometimes give her, apparently comes from the assumption that her husband William de Hastings is the same person as Walter de Hastings, who lived about the same time and must have at the very least been a close relative. This Walter's wife was certainly named Hadewise.

Walter de Hastings and his wife Hadevisa had a manor called Mancetre which they granted to Walkeline already by the time of King Stephen, and they also granted nearby Oldbury to the Nuns of Polesworth in the time of Henry I.[2] The date of the surviving charter must be in the period of 1129-1135 according to Clark. Clark noted that between Antiquities of Warwickshire (1656), and Baronage (1675-6), Dugdale had replaced Walter with William as father of Hugh.[3]

Sources

  1. Douglas ed., Feudal documents from the abbey of Bury St. Edmunds. charter 89 https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015040789920&seq=274
  2. Dugdale, W. (1730), Antiquities of Warwickshire, p.741, p.774, p.778.
  3. Clark, G. T. C. (1869), "The Rise and Race of Hastings" (in 3 parts), Archaeological Journal, Vol. 26, p.237

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Having raised questions about this profile since 2014 I suppose there are two options? 1. Disconnect. 2. Change first name to UNKNOWN. Technically though, her first name is certainly unknown and her family is only a best guess. The most correct solution is 1.
posted by Andrew Lancaster
I would like us to change the LNAB to Unknown. Any opposition to that idea?
posted by Andrew Lancaster
removed from parents Nesta & Gerald fitz Walter as this connection was merely speculative https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/FitzWalter-146

will re-connect if something concrete turns up

posted by Valerie Willis
This is a fairly well-debated family, and I think the existence of this person is an error from pre-19th century antiquitarians? I have summarized all the more recent sources I can find here: http://users.skynet.be/lancaster/Hastings%20of%20the%2012th%20century.html . I am new on this wiki, but I am wondering if this entry should be removed? Or how can it be discussed? I think some of the best genealogists in history have looked at this.
posted by Andrew Lancaster

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