Jan Willemsz
Woertman
aka Williams, Woerdman, Woordman, Woerkman, Wortman, Warkeman, Workeman, Worcman, Woercman
Born about in Amsterdam, Noord-Holland, Netherlands
Son of [father unknown] and [mother unknown]
[sibling(s) unknown]
Husband of
Harmtje Jans
— married
1628 in Amsterdam, Noord-Holland, Netherlands
Descendants 
Father of
Lijsbeth (Janszen) Jans and Dirck Jans Woertman
Died
at about age 51
in Amsterdam, Noord-Holland, Netherlands
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- Note: Possible grandparents ...William Workman and Elizabeth Cocks (there is little proof for any parents, although his parents are thought to be John Workman and Esther Wood, but at present his parents are unknown. [1]
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Biography
- John William Workman or Jan Willemsz Woertman is assumed to have died in Amsterdam, Holland, some time before the year 1647. Little is known of him except that he was married and had a family. It is believed that he was an emigrant from England, coming to Holland as a result of religious persecution during the time of the Puritan upheavals. Son Dirck according the source used here was son Richard (so Dirck Janse =Richard son of John ? )[2]
- Note: This really doesn't make a lot of sence...Richard = Dirk, and Dirk Janse is Richard son of John ?? To me looks more like just adjusting names and stuff to just make things match ? (to make the children fit the in fact just wrong parents)Timmerman-225 19:25, 13 June 2016 (EDT)
- In Holland, John or Jan, seemingly integrated into the social and religious way of life of the people there and his family adopted their customs completely so that during the time of their emigrations they were known mainly as sons, daughters, or wife of John. In church records the patronymic pattern was followed almost completely so that John's son, Richard, is recorded as Dirck Jansen very frequently. As early as the year 1628, Jans William Woertman had married Harmtje Jans ? (Hannah, an unusual name among the Dutch) and they were the parents of at least three children born in Amsterdam, Holland.[2]
Name
Birth
- Date: 1598 Amsterdam,Holland[5]
- Date: 1598 in Gloucestershire County, England, United Kingdom
- Date: 1 JUL 1598[6]
- Date: 1600 England[7]
Marriage
- inschrijvingsdatum: 22-11-1629 naam bruidegom: Willemss, Jan naam bruid: Harmans, Jannetje [8]
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| Marriage Jan Willemss and Jannetje Harmans 22 November, 1629 Amsterdam |
Possible Children
- kind: Elizabeth doopdatum: 19-07-1613 kerk: Engels Presbyteraanse Kerk godsdienst: Engels Presbyteraans vader: Williams, John [10]
Uncertain because: No mother or last name mentioned so could be a different guy of course ...
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| Baptism Twin, Dirk and Anneken Woertman, 7 December 1631, Amsterdam kind: Dirk en Anneken kerk: Evangelisch Luthers: boek 139; vader: Jan Woertman [11] See the witnesses and the name Harman, which could indicate Harman maybe was the grandfather...which could mean Harmtje was daughter of Harman and the above found marriage is indeed correct and Harmtje maybe after the death of her husband and emigration just adopted her husbands first name as her patronymic -last name , but it could also mean these just all are totally different people or maybe Jan later married Harmtie Jans ? Timmerman-225 10:18, 5 August 2016 (EDT) |
- 3. kind: Annetie doopdatum: 23-02-1662 kerk: Lutherse Kerk godsdienst: Evangelisch-Luthers vader: Woertman, Jan moeder: Waertmans, Annetie [12]
this probably isn't this Jan Willems (Woertman) since it's said he died before 1647..
Death
- Date: 10 JAN 1640 Holland[13]
- Date: 1647 Amsterdam, Amsterdam, Noord-Holland, Netherlands[14]
- Died January 10, 1647 in Amsterdam, Noord-Holland, Netherlands
- Date: 10 JAN 1649[15]
- 10 Jan 1639/40 Place: Amsterdam, Noord-Holland, Netherlands
Burial
- Place: Netherlands[16]
Sources
- Chester, Chris. "The Brouwer Genealogy Database." [freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~brouwergenealogydata. Accessed May 23, 2016.] and Jan Woertman
- Source: Descendants of John William Workman Woertman Family
- Source: Workman Family History Americana pages 16-27
- Source S112: Abbreviation: David Wortman: Title: Files mailed by David Wortman
- Source: S1 Author: Ancestry.com Title: OneWorldTree Publication: Name: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc.; Repository: #R1 Repository: R1 Name: Ancestry.com Address: http://www.Ancestry.com
- Source S-2117289840: Repository: #R-2117465979: Title: Millennium File: Author: Heritage Consulting: Publication: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2003.Original data - Heritage Consulting. The Millennium File. Salt Lake City, UT, USA: Heritage Consulting.Original data: Heritage Consulting. The Millennium File. Salt Lake City, UT, USA: APID: 7249::0 No REPO record found with id R-2117465979.
- Source S-2117433450: Repository: #R-2117465979: Title: Ancestry Family Trees: Publication: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Source: #S-2117433450:: Page: Ancestry Family Trees Text: https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/17332090/person/497240451/facts
Ancestry sources ?
Acknowledgments
- This person was created through the import of family.ged on 21 September 2010. The following data was included in the gedcom. You may wish to edit it for readability. User ID: 5860E92AD2312247A21C110614B516CBB684
- WikiTree profile Woertman-39 created through the import of Rhodes 2011_2011-07-09_01_01.ged on Jul 9, 2011 by Tom Rhodes. See the Changes page for the details of edits by Tom and others.
- Thank you to Jenn Engman for creating WikiTree profile Woertman-50 through the import of Ellsworth Family Tree.ged on Apr 20, 2013. Click to the Changes page for the details of edits by Jenn and others.
- This person was created through the import of Workman _ Bree(2).ged on 20 January 2011.
- Thank you to Brad Higgins for creating WikiTree profile Workman-876 through the import of Higgins_Miller_Showalter_Workm.ged on Dec 29, 2013. Click to the Changes page for the details of edits by Brad and others.
- Melissa McKay 2016
Research notes
- Marriages for men named John Williams or Jan or John Willemsz, but dates and wifes don't match:
- inschrijvingsdatum: 26-03-1605
naam bruidegom: William, John naam bruidegom: Willemsz, Jan
naam bruid: Willems, Susanna[17] - inschrijvingsdatum: 31-10-1626 naam bruidegom: Willemss, John
naam bruid: Heijndrix, Maglijntje [18]
- ↑ * by Judith Ann Workman - Connection to the Vikings
- ↑ 2.0 2.1 Quotes from : The Dutch ancestors from material gathered by Lorraine Hansen Butta of Longmont CO., from Dutch Reformed Church Records.
- ↑ Source: #S1 Note: @N1@
- ↑ : Source: #S-2117289840: Note: http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=millind&h=10993296&ti=0&indiv=try&gss=pt Text: Birth date: 1600Birth place: EnglandDeath date: 1647Death place: Amsterdam, Holl, Holland APID: 7249::10993296
- ↑ Source: #S1 Note: @N1@
- ↑ : Source: #S112: TMPLT : Name: Page
- ↑ :: Source: #S-2117289840: Note: http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=millind&h=10993296&ti=0&indiv=try&gss=pt Text: Birth date: 1600Birth place: EnglandDeath date: 1647Death place: Amsterdam, Holl, Holland APID: 7249::10993296
- ↑ Source: Stadsarchief Amsterdam bronverwijzing: DTB 434, p.356 Marriage 22 November, 1629 opmerkingen: Huwelijksintekeningen van de KERK. Archief van de Burgerlijke Stand: doop-, trouw- en begraafboeken van Amsterdam (retroacta van de Burgerlijke Stand) Ondertrouwregister: NL-SAA-26401621
- ↑ Scan Marriage 22 November, 1629: "Netherlands, Noord-Holland Province, Church Records, 1523-1948," images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-31158-13094-70?cc=2037985 : accessed 13 June 2016), Nederlands Hervormde > Amsterdam > Huwelijksaangiften, Trouwen 1628-1630 > image 412 of 582; Nederlands Rijksarchiefdienst, Den Haag (Netherlands National Archives, The Hague).
- ↑ bronverwijzing: DTB 137, p.8 Archief van de Burgerlijke Stand: doop-, trouw- en begraafboeken van Amsterdam (retroacta van de Burgerlijke Stand) Elizabeth baptized 1613 Doopregister: NL-SAA-24367240
- ↑ "Netherlands, Noord-Holland Province, Church Records, 1523-1948," images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1951-31163-794-88?cc=2037985 : accessed 24 May 2016), Evangelisch Luthers > Amsterdam > Dopen 1590-1641 > image 408 of 654; Nederlands Rijksarchiefdienst, Den Haag (Netherlands National Archives, The Hague). right page, seventh entry
- ↑ bronverwijzing: DTB 146, p.16 Archief van de Burgerlijke Stand: doop-, trouw- en begraafboeken van Amsterdam (retroacta van de Burgerlijke Stand) Doopregister: NL-SAA-24503710
- ↑ Source: #S1 Note: @N1@
- ↑ : Source: #S-2117289840: Note: http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=millind&h=10993296&ti=0&indiv=try&gss=pt Text: Birth date: 1600Birth place: EnglandDeath date: 1647Death place: Amsterdam, Holl, Holland APID: 7249::10993296
- ↑ : Source: #S112: TMPLT : Name: Page
- ↑ : Source: #S112: TMPLT : Name: Page
- ↑ bronverwijzing: DTB 411, p.454 opmerkingen: Huwelijksintekeningen van de KERK. Archief van de Burgerlijke Stand: doop-, trouw- en begraafboeken van Amsterdam (retroacta van de Burgerlijke Stand) Ondertrouwregister: NL-SAA-26403216
- ↑ bronverwijzing: DTB 431, p.461 opmerkingen: Huwelijksintekeningen van de KERK. Archief van de Burgerlijke Stand: doop-, trouw- en begraafboeken van Amsterdam (retroacta van de Burgerlijke Stand) Ondertrouwregister: NL-SAA-26401771
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DNA Connections
It may be possible to confirm family relationships with Jan Willemsz by comparing test results with other carriers of his Y-chromosome or his mother's mitochondrial DNA. However, there are no known yDNA or mtDNA test-takers in his direct paternal or maternal line. It is likely that these autosomal DNA test-takers will share some percentage of DNA with Jan Willemsz:
It may be possible to confirm family relationships with Jan Willemsz by comparing test results with other carriers of his Y-chromosome or his mother's mitochondrial DNA. However, there are no known yDNA or mtDNA test-takers in his direct paternal or maternal line. It is likely that these autosomal DNA test-takers will share some percentage of DNA with Jan Willemsz:
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~0.39%
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Categories: Nederlanders | Netherlands Project Needs More Records | New Netherland Ancestors
edited by Doug Sinclair
Added an image of the baptism of the twin, noticed one interesting witness there: Maybe it was Trijntje Jonas ? She was a midwife and also emigrated to New Netherland, and there is a Harman mentioned, maybe the grandfather ? This could also mean the marriage of Jan Willemsz and Jannetje Harmans is correct . But this also would mean that either this Jannetje Harmans changed her name when she emigrated to Harmtie Jans or this is just a totally different couple or..Jan later married Harmtie Jans and she was the stephmother of Dirk, which could explain why it is not really very clear and mentioned she was his mother ?
All duplicates are merged now, hope it's ok , will look for some records again tomorrow, maybe a Birthrecord for the Jan Willemss can be found .. or the Jan Woertman
The duplicate had parents William Workman and Elizabeth Cocks as supposed parents which also were incorrect. (no proof for any parents, so his parents in fact were unknown. so the supposed parents all are removed now .
The theory that he was German is likely based on the fact that he used a Lutheran church in the Netherlands.
There is a Joseph b 1750 in Roxbury, Morris, N.J. which is a relative.
Neither source I have indicate that his roots are German, I have heard that way back in time the Workman's were from France and were possibly Huguenots.
This is the only marriage in Amsterdam that is the closest match to both and the year of marriage mentioned in the Bio (So a woman named Jannetje Harmans and a man named Jan Willemss (= Willemsz) Willem as a patronymic , so father was named Willem (or William ?) So no last name for them and the names for Jannetje were just wrong Jans Harmtje (Harmtje spelled just as when it was a first name)