Lydia (Young) Murdock (abt. 1664 - abt. 1719)

Born about 1664 in Eastham, Barnstable, Plymouth Colony [uncertain]

Ancestors

Wife of John (Murdock) Mordoch — married 10 Dec 1686 (to before 1719) in Plymouth, Massachusetts

Descendants

Died about 1719 at about age 55 in Plymouth, Plymouth, Province of Massachusetts Bay [uncertain]

Problems/Questions Profile manager: Jim Moore [send private message]

Possible Confusion

In February of 2017, with the permission of all known stakeholders, Lydia Young, the wife of Samuel Hatch, and Lydia Young, the wife of John Murdock, were merged. As I performed research to revise the merged profile, I discovered that it represented an impossibility, that the two men must have married two different women named Lydia. Here are some findings:

• There are near-original records stating that the wife of John Murdock is Lydia Young.
• The only near-original record that I can find states that the wife of Samuel Hatch is "Lydia ____".
• Whether the Lydia Young who married John Murdock is the Lydia Young who was born in 1664 in Eastham is probable but not certain.
• "Lydia" is a very common name in Plymouth Colony during this period.
• There was more than one Lydia Young in Plymouth Colony, including a Lydia Young who married a Hatch (but not this Samuel Hatch).

Accordingly, in March of 2017, I revised this profile to separate Lydia Young (wife of Murdock) from Lydia ___ (wife of Hatch).

JWM, profile manager

Biography

Lydia Young was born in 1664 to John Young and Abigail Howland. ^{[1] [2] [3] [4]}

Lydia Young married John Murdoch on 10 Dec 1686 in Plymouth, Plymouth Colony. ^{[2] [5] [6] [7]} Together they had eight children, during the period from 1687 through 1701, but only three survived to adulthood.

Childen born Plymouth:^[8]

1. John, b. 13 Dec 1687, d. 8 Jan 1687/8
2. Janet/Jonat, b. 3 Feb 1689, d. 24 Apr 1697
3. John, b. 8 Jun 1691
4. James, b. 13 Jun 1693, d. 11 Mar 1693/4
5. Robert, b. 14 Mar 1696/7, d. 28 Jul 1699
6. Robert, b. 8 Oct 1699, d. Nov 1699
7. James, b. 14 Jan 1694/5
8. Thomas, b. 19 Nov 1701

Lydia died between 1701 (birth of last child) and 1719 (John's remarriage).^[9]

An entry on FindAGrave states that Lydia Young Murdock died in 1719 and was buried at Burial, Hill, Plymouth, Massachusetts Bay. ^[10]

Research Notes

As mentioned above, Lydia (Young) Murdock is listed in Find-A-Grave and is shown buried at Burial Hill, Plymouth, Plymouth County, Massachusetts. ^[10] Another entry on Find-A-Grave states that Lydia (Young) Hatch died 10 Apr 1724 and was buried in Falmouth. ^[11] The confusion is created because both entries claim that each Lydia refers to the daughter of John Young. The second one is incorrect because the daughter of John Young married John Murdock, not Samuel Hatch. Furthermore, the date of death given by the second would be five years after Murdock remarried.

The following comment represents an opinion on how to treat the confusion:

According to the name presented on profile, (Lydia (Young) Murdock) should be the only name sourced here. If the other "Lydia (Young) Hatch" entry on Find A Grave Memorial #59390421, is incorrect, then WikiTree profile manager(s) need to address this issue to the memorial manager on Find A Grave and bring it to their attention. I personally do not know anything about this person nor could not find any other reference source, or I would contact the memorial manager(s) myself. ^[12]

Sources

1. ↑ "Massachusetts Vital Records to 1850: Eastham-Orleans V1," database of images, New England Historic Genealogical Society, American Ancestors (AmericanAncestors.org: viewed 27 December 2014), Eastham-Orleans V1, MD V.8, p 16 from NEHGR V.123, p 204, "Lidia young the daughter of John young was borne the ... 1664"; citing transcription from original records by George Ernest Bowman. A footnote states that the record left space for the month and day. Some sources given Orleans as the birth location, but Orleans was not split from Eastham until 1797.
2. ↑ ^{2.0 2.1} Doherty, The Settlers of the Beekman Patent, Dutchess County, New York, vol 9, p 398, genealogical sketch of John Murdock.
3. ↑ Adams, Genealogical and Personal Memoirs Relating to the Families of the State of Massachusetts, 4 vols, pp. 2684-5.
4. ↑ Hinckley, American Ancestors, vol 1, pp. 71-72, entry of April 9, 1692 regarding Sarah Young.
5. ↑ George Ernest Bowman, "Vital Records of Plymouth, Mass.," Mayflower Descendant Vol. 13:203

   John Mordo Was married unto lidia yong the 10^th day of december 1686.

6. ↑ "Torrey's New England Marriages to 1700," database index, New England Historic Genealogical Society, AmericanAncestors.org (https://www.americanancestors.org/databases/torreys-new-england-marriages-to-1700/image/?volumeId=21175&pageName=1077&rId=426934856: accessed 2 March 2017), "MORDOW, John (-1756) & 1/wf Lydia YOUNG (-1701+); 10 Dec 1686; Plymouth; citing {Reed (1956); MD 1:146, 13:203; Murdock 13, 179; Shurtleff 143; Young (1923) 2; Putnam's Mag. 6:70; LBDF&P #209}.
7. ↑ "Massachusetts Vital Records to 1850: Plymouth Vol 1," database index with images, New England Historic Genealogical Society, American Ancestors (AmericanAncestors.org: accessed 2 March 2017), p 85, "...[p. 127]...3 John MORDO married Lidia YONG 10 Dec. 1686", citing transcription of Lee D van Antwerp (compiler) and Ruth Wilder Sherman (editor), "Vital Records of Plymouth, Massachusetts to the Year 1850," Picton Press, Camden, Maine, 1993, p. 85. (Link by $ubscription.)
8. ↑ Bowman, "VRs of Plymouth," MD Vol. 1:146
9. ↑ "Massachusetts Vital Records to 1850: Plymouth Vol 1," American Ancestors, p 176, "[p. 263] [Marriage intentions cont.]...1719...Oct. 24 Mr. John Mordow to Phebe Morton" p.176 (Link by $ubscription).
10. ↑ ^{10.0 10.1} Find A Grave, Inc., Find A Grave, Lydia Young Murdock, memorial #34122561.
11. ↑ Find A Grave, Inc., Find A Grave, Lydia Young Hatch, memorial #59390421. [Readers should note that this entry is contains errors.]
12. ↑ Entered by Data Doctor Paula Ann Hawkins, 12 January 2020.

See also:

• Adams, William Richard Cutter and William Frederick. Genealogical and Personal Memoirs Relating to the Families of the State of Massachusetts, 4 vols. Lewis Historical Publishing Company, 1910. Images of book pages. Google. Google Book. http://books.google.com : 2014.
• Doherty, Frank J.. The Settlers of the Beekman Patent, Dutchess County, New York: An Historical and Genealogical Study of All the 18th Century Settlers in the Patent. self, 1990–2015. Online page images. New England Historic Genealogical Society. AmericanAncestors.org. https://www.americanancestors.org/databases/beekman-patent-the-settlers-of-dutchess-co-ny/about/?rId=1005359623&volumeId=37844&pageName=398 : 2017.
• Hinckley, Gustavus Adolphus. "Barnstable, MA: Probate Records 1685-1789." Images of transcription. New England Historic Genealogical Society. American Ancestors. https://www.americanancestors.org/databases/barnstable-ma-probate-records-1685–1789/about/: 2014.
• "Massachusetts Vital Records to 1850: Eastham-Orleans V1." Database of images. New England Historic Genealogical Society. American Ancestors. AmericanAncestors.org: 2014.
• "Massachusetts Vital Records to 1850: Plymouth Vol 1." Database index with images. New England Historic Genealogical Society. American Ancestors. AmericanAncestors.org: 2017.
• [Torrey's] "New England Marriages to 1700." Database index with images. New England Historic Genealogical Society. AmericanAncestors.org.
• "Find A Grave Index," database, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVKQ-YTFM : 20 May 2020), Lydia Young Murdock, ; Burial, , ; citing record ID , Find a Grave(https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/34122561)

Formerly Cited Sources with Dead Links

• Source: S648 Eileen McKinnon-Suggs (suggs1@msn.com), Our Kingdom Come (http://awtc.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=emsuggs&id=I39737 Last updated October 10, 2004 Accessed December 2, 2005)
• Source: S942 RE: wife of Zoeth Howland & early Howland line, Lisarog@pacbell.net, http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=message&r=an&p=surnames.howland&m=711.1.1.1 Text: The date of the marriage of Abigail to John Young is in dispute. According to Howland's History, this Abigail married Young on 2 9m [November] 1678, a date not found in any records relating to Abigail and one too late to accord with her being called Abigail Young in her mother's will of 1674. Howland's alleged date is the one found in the Friends Records for the marriage of an Abigail Howland to Richard Keerby (see Abigail, widow of No.2, Zoeth Howland). The names of some of the children born to John Young and wife Abigail (e.g., Joseph, Henry, and possibly Robert) are Howland names and re compatible with a presumption that the mother was a daughter of Henry Howland; but if she were, Abigail was married many years earlier. A likely record of the marriage is the previously cited one in 1684. Extensive information is available on the family, both published and unpublished. A quick review of the Youngs in Plymouth Colony, made by the the authors Wakefield and Sherman, suggests that this John is the only Young in the colony likely to be Abigail's husband. Note: This is a decently sourced out report with lots of potential for further study.

Ancestral File Number

Ancestral File Number: 14R4-STJ

Ancestral File Number: MHC8-VD