Caroline Elizabeth (Chance) Platt (abt. 1822 - 1910)

Born about Apr 1822 in Wisbech, Cambridgeshire, England, United Kingdom

Ancestors

Wife of Thomas Wragg Platt — married 16 Jul 1857 in Saint John the Baptist, Hoxton, Hackney, England, United Kingdom

Descendants

Died 1910 at about age 87 in Wisbech, Cambridgeshire, England, United Kingdom

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Biography

Caroline (Chance) Platt was born in Cambridgeshire, England.

Caroline Elizabeth was the daughter of Robert Chance and his first wife Rose Mary Teed. She was baptised 12 April 1822, Wisbech, Parish of St. Peter, Cambridge.

She married Thomas Wragg Platt, 16 July 1857, at St. John the Baptist, Shoreditch, London.

Dobson Papers:

Caroline Elizabeth Chance (b. 1823-24, Wisbech; not with father in 1841, but living, unmaried, with him in 1851. By Thomas Platt of High St, carver and gilder (b 1814-15), Sheffield, Yorkshire. They had 3 illigitamate children, frankly acknowledged as such in baptism record. By the time of their 4th child (b 1852) they represented themselves as married, although no record of rite is found. Occ gulder, ater at Market Place (1848, 1854, 1855, 1857, 1860), at Little Sough Stree in 1863. A not in Thomas (1858) baptism gives occ as carver and gilder, 26 Market Place.

CHILDREN:

Known issue (all baptisms in St. Peter’s Church, Wisbech): 1. (illegitimate) Martha Platt Chance, bapt. 1 Dec. 1843, d. by 1846, when another daughter was given the same name. 2. (illegitimate) Martha Emily Platt Chance, bapt. 16 Jan. 1846, living 1861. 3. (illegitimate) Elizabeth Platt Chance, bapt. 13 Aug. 1848, living 1861. 4. Thomas Platt, b. evidently ca. 1850, bapt. 11 April 1855, buried 13 Jan. 1857. We assume the baptism of this child was considerably delayed, else on chronological grounds he must have been a twin to one of his siblings. 5. Julia Platt, b. 8 Aug. 1852, bapt. (several years later) 16 Aug. 1857, living 1861. 6. Elvira Louisa Platt, bapt. 2 June 1854, d. by 1861. 7. Thomas Platt, b. 5 April 1858, bapt. 5 Sept. following, living 1861. 8. William Thomas Platt, b. 1 March 1860, bapt. 13 Aug. following. 9. Alfred Platt, b. 15 Jan. 1863, bapt. 19 June following.

1851 Census, Wisbech: 29, daughter [7th name on list]. With Robert Chance (65); Mary Chance (38); Mary A Chance (14); Louisa Chance (8); William Chance (6); Robert Chance (2); Elzabeth Chance (3); Henry Nixon (20), Lodger

16 July 1857, St John the Baptist, Hoxton, married THOMAS WAGG PLATT

1861 Census, Wisbech: 37, wife, born Wisbech. With Thomas Platt (46); Martha Emily Platt (15); Elizabeth Platt (13); Jula Platt (80; Thomas Platt (3); William Thos Platt (1)

1871 Census, Wisbech, Cambridgeshire: 49. With: Thomas Platt (54); Elizabeth Platt (22); Thomas Platt (12); William T P (10); Arthur E Platt (3), Albert E Hughes (9 months) Visitor

1881 Census,No 1, East Street, Wibech, St Peter: 58, wife, b Wisbech. WithThomas Platt (63); Arthur E Platt (13)

1891, Wisbech, St Peter, Cambridgeshire: 69, Head, Charwooman; no others at that address

1901 Census, Wisbech: 79, Head; living alone1841 Census, 1841 Census, St George Hanover Square, Belgrave; 20 years old. Living with Emma Ladyman, 18

Death, 12 Sept 1910 988), Middlesex; Probate Registry, London

Probate:

CHANCE, Elizabteth of 12 Hilgrove-road Middlesex died 12 Sept 1910 widow at 7 Mount Carmel-chambers Kinsington Middlesex. Administration London 12 January. Effects L1447 12s. 9d.

Occupation

1891 Census: Charwoman

Notes

She was living unmarried with her father in 1851.

By Thomas Platt, of High Street, carver and gilder, b. 1814-15(?) at Sheffield, Yorkshire, she had three illegitimate children, frankly acknowledged as such in their baptismal records. From the time they baptized their fourth child, born in 1852, they represented themselves as a married couple and gave the children the surname Platt, though whether they were in fact married has not been determined.

Thomas Platt's occupation is consistently given as guilder in the baptismal records, but they later show him at Market Place in (1848, 1854, 1855, 1857, 1860) and at Little South Street in 1863. A note in the baptismal record of their son Thomas (1858) says that the fatherwas "admitted into the church" on 13 Aug. 1860. Thomas and Caroline Platt are listed in the 1861 census of Wisbech, in which he is called a carver and gilder, of 26 Market Place.

Received some details from Carol Kimberley (bitafitatyahoo.co.uk) re baptisimal records for Thomas Platt's and Caroline Elizabeth Chance's children which listed the following:Elizabeth - baptised 12/1/1841, died Dec 1841Hortence Platt Chance Platt baptised 01/12/1843 (could this be the first Martha who I presumed died and I have made a mistake?). Carol cannot find any further record of Hortence so it is probable that she did indeed die shortly there-after.Martha Emily Platt Chance Platt baptised 16/01/1846Elizabeth Platt Chance born 28/04/1848, baptised 13/08/1848Julia born 08/08/1852, baptised 16/08/1857Elvina Louisa Platt baptised 02.06/1854

Sources

• John Blyth Dobson Paper,: from”dermgood” tree on ‘’ancestry’’ website

Acknowledgments

Thank you to Tony Cohen for creating WikiTree profile Chance-385 through the import of 101012 Liam Cohen.ged on May 26, 2013. Click to the Changes page for the details of edits by Tony and others.