hello frank,i wondered if alister came in on the tree,valentine mckay 1866 died 1938 darvel ayrshire? married mary richmond ,born darvel, there seems to be a few valentine/s in our tree,? well i said to the local genealogist,my grt/grndads name is spelt mackay, but further back she said its mckay,so with that i am baffled . i know for sure my grt/grndad was john mackay, born 22/5 1864,kilmorack married jessie campbell. it seems one certificate has his dad as alexander,and another its david. i thought his dad was alexander,,and was surprised to see also on the net it shows david mckay/catherine mackenzie thanks for trying to help frank .