Origins of the different Pennock family lines in Early Pennsylvania

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I'd like to open this thread to discuss changes to the profile of Christopher Pennock (abt. 1645 - bef. 1701).
WikiTree profile: Christopher Pennock
in Genealogy Help by SJ Baty G2G Astronaut (1.1m points)
there are no proofs for the parents that are on the profile

and some sites have parents as Christopher Pinnocke and Alice Summer, for whom there is an actual marriage document

I agree, Eddie.

I have never seen any documented evidence for any alleged parents of Christopher Pennock.  George Valentine Massey, a professional genealogist who wrote The Pennocks of Primitive Hall for the Chester County Historical Society in 1951, traces the Pennock line only back to Christopher, although he does discuss Christopher’s father-in-law George Collett, who bought the 5,000 acres of Pennsylvania land that was the foundation for Pennock prosperity in the new world.

I have seen numerous claims for who Christopher’s parents are, but many of them contradict each other.  I will wait until I see hard evidence before I acknowledge any couple as Christopher's parents.

John Pennock who married Mary Ward is several generations later. Their son Christopher was born 1787

England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973No Image
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      Name: Mary Ward
      Gender: Female
      Marriage Date: 19 May 1782
      Marriage Place: Wetwang With Fimber,York,England
      Spouse: John Pennick
      FHL Film Number: 991186

      Source Information

      Ancestry.com. England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2014.

      England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975No Image
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          Name: Christopher Cooper Pennock
          Gender: Male
          Birth Date: 22 May 1787
          Baptism Date: 23 May 1787
          Baptism Place: Wetwang With Fimber,York,England
          Father: John Pennock
          Mother: Mary
          FHL Film Number: 991186

          Source Information

          Ancestry.com. England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2014.

          I find no records of John Pennock born to Isaac Pennock

          I did, I think, find the parents of John who married Mary Ward, as above.

          Thomas Pennock and Jane Cooper, married in 1753.

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          What changes did you have in mind?
          by Dick Pennock G2G Crew (570 points)
          Hi Dick, you emailed me a lot of info about this profile - I'd like to discuss that information here in G2G so that all of the profile managers, trusted list members, and descendants can have visibility on it.

          Can you paste the bulk of what you emailed me here?

          thanks!

          I developed this Pennock profile, a great gr granddaughter of Christopher Pennock, if that's of help to anybody.

          Alice Pennock

          I am interested in this line as well. I have just started exploring this family. I'm descended from Joseph Pennock who married Mary Levis.

          WRT Christopher Pennock, the wiki biography says he came to Pennsylania in 1684.  In Irma Corcoran, Thomas Holme, 1624-1695, Surveyor General of Pennsylvania, Memoirs of the American Philosophical Society, Held at Philadelphia For Promoting Useful KnowledgeVolume 200, American Philosophical Society, Philadelphia, 1992, the author quotes several instances in which Thomas Holme meets with Christopher Pennock.  The dates noted are "1 monthe 1683 [March 1682/83]" on pp 138-139 and "16 March 1682/83" on p 176.

          Christopher's wiki biography also states, "Almost all Pennocks in the United States can trace their ancestry back to Christopher . . ."  I know a number of Pennocks who claim to descend from Pennocks who settled in New England about the same time that Christopher settled in Pennsylvania.  Some of these people have never heard of Christopher.  I suspect there is a link back in England at some previous time, but I haven’t seen any documentation of one.

          WRT to the wiki biography of Christopher's grandson William Pennock (Christopher -> Joseph -> William), the section "Research Notes" mentions that Massey's book The Pennocks of Primitive Hall says William's son William (Jr) died on 10th mo 3, 1763, but that other sources claim William Jr emigrated with his family to Ohio around 1808.

          Massey made an error.  The date he quotes for the death of William Jr is actually the date that William Sr died.  I have seen a presumed death date for William Jr of 15 May 1816 in Ohio.

          Definitely disconnect Christopher from John and Mary

          Place Christopher under PPP so they won't be added back

          As to John and Mary, a note that as written on the profiles, they may not have existed, with, perhaps information regarding the later John P and Mary Ward, who did exist

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