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I have been working on my family tree for a couple years now. I've hit a brick wall with my great grandfather, I can find records starting at 1910 and after but nothing as far as who is father/mother is. He has several different names he goes by, any advice would be greatly appreciated! His name according to cemetery records is William Elvin Rhyne, death records he is listed as Pat Rhyne. DOB May 22 1880, or 1884 and DEATH was July 3 1961 in Wathena Kansas. His wifes name was Cora Alice Monroe and they had two children Micky Dinty Rhyne and Marty Moses Rhyne
in Genealogy Help by Terra Rhyne G2G Crew (670 points)

U.S., World War II Draft Registration Cards, 1942

Name: Patrick William A Rhyne
Gender: Male
Race: White
Residence Age: 60
Birth Date: 22 May 1882
Birth Place: Harlan, Kentucky, USA
Residence Date: 1942
Residence Place: Troy, Kansas, USA
Relationship to Draftee: Head
Military Draft Date: 1942
Occupation: C W Ryan
Height: 5 8
Eye Color: Gray
Hair Color: Gray
Weight: 154
Complexion: Dark
Household Members:
Name Age
Patrick William A Rhyne 60
Source Citation: The National Archives at St. Louis; St. Louis, Missouri; World War II Draft Cards (Fourth Registration) for the State of Kansas; Record Group Title: Records of the Selective Service System; Record Group Number: 147; Box or Roll Number: Box 397

U.S., World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918

Name: William Alvin Rhyne
Race: White
Birth Date: 22 May 1884
Street Address: 1325 So 27
Residence Place: Kansas City, Wyandotte, Kansas, USA
Relative: Georgia Rhyne
Household Members:
Name Age
William Alvin Rhyne
Source Citation: Registration State: Kansas; Registration County: Wyandotte; Roll: 1643584; Draft Board: 4
WW1 draft card done Sept 2 1918
September 27 1918

newspaper notice

Georgia Rhyne filed for divorce from her husband W. A. Rhyne

4 Answers

+5 votes
I'm wondering if you might William Elvin Rhyne (born 1925) confused with William Allen Patrick Rhyne (born 1882).
by Shirley Gilbert G2G6 Mach 6 (66.3k points)

I find a death record for William Elvin Rhyne in Richmond, North Carolina on 11 Nov 1973. Gives his birth date as 21 Sep 1925 and his parents as Elvin Rhyne and Hattie Russell.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FP7F-N5D

This gives father's middle initial as T

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VCS5-C6W

+4 votes
Can you obtain a copy of his marriage certificate? In many places at least one parent is named.

Following him back in census records is another possibility. Look at all the information in each census and see if any are specific about his place of birth. Hopefully you can find something in his younger years or with an older relative living in the same household.

   Tim
by Tim Partridge G2G6 Mach 4 (41.1k points)
+4 votes

The 1940 US census shows the father as Pat and mother Cory of children Mickey and Marty.

Mickey Rohyne

 in the 1940 United States Federal Census

Name: Mickey Rohyne
[Mickey Rhyne
Age: 8
Estimated birth year: abt 1932
Gender: Male
Race: White
Birthplace: Kansas
Marital status: Single
Relation to Head of House: Son
Home in 1940: Troy, Doniphan, Kansas
Map of Home in 1940: View Map
Street: Block No 28
Inferred Residence in 1935: Troy, Doniphan, Kansas
Residence in 1935: Same Place
Sheet Number: 7B
Attended School or College: Yes
Highest Grade Completed: Elementary school, 1st grade
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Pat Rohyne 58
Cora Rohyne 46
Mickey Rohyne 8
Martie Rohyne 3

Source Citation

Year: 1940; Census Place: Troy, Doniphan, Kansas; Roll: m-t0627-01229; Page: 7B; Enumeration District: 22-2

Source Information

Ancestry.com. 1940 United States Federal Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2012.

by Patricia Stockley G2G6 Pilot (147k points)
Yes this is the family. Mickey is the oldest son.
+4 votes
He had 3 wives

Maggie Showalter divorce filed 1908

Georgia (still looking for her last name) divorce 1918

Cora
by Eddie King G2G6 Pilot (696k points)
According to the newspaper, his parents were William Hamilton Rhynes and Dicey Baker Rhynes.

Illinois, County Marriage Records, 1800-1940

Name: Williams Rynes
Gender: Male
Age: 24
Birth Date: 1850
Marriage Date: 1874
Marriage Place: Jefferson, Illinois, USA
Spouse: Dicy Baker
Film Number: 001004738
Household Members:
Name Age
Williams Rynes
Dicy Baker
Source Information:
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Ancestry.com. Illinois, County Marriage Records, 1800-1940 [database on-line]. Lehi, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2016.
Dicey also known as Evaline
tracking census records

William H born abt 1846 parents William Hamilton Rhynes and Nancy Harris

Dicey born abt 1858 parents William Baker and Melissa Twitty

your great grandfather had a brother in the ARMY

U.S., Department of Veterans Affairs BIRLS Death File, 1850-2010

Name: James Rhyne
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 22 Aug 1895
Death Date: 21 Aug 1974
SSN: 509054563
Branch 1: ARMY
Enlistment Date 1: 5 Aug 1918
Release Date 1: 17 Jan 1919
Source Information:
Ancestry.com. U.S., Department of Veterans Affairs BIRLS Death File, 1850-2010 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2011.
Original Data: Beneficiary Identification Records Locator Subsystem (BIRLS) Death File. Washington, D.C.: U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs.
his other siblings were Elihu, Cora, Allen, Leona and Marvin

Dicey Baker's great grandfather served in the American Revolution

U.S., Sons of the American Revolution Membership Applications, 1889-1970

Name: William Baker
Birth Date: Feb 1740
Birth Place: Passaic Valley, New Jersey
Death Date: 4 Jul 1787
Death Place: New Providence, New Jersey
SAR Membership: 56808
Role: Ancestor
Application Date: 27 Oct 1938
Father: Thomas Baker
Mother: Hannah Thompson
Spouse: Rac Hel Valentine
Children: Thomas Baker

Iowa, State Census Collection, 1836-1925

Name: Georgia Rhyne
Age: 33
Birth Year: 1892
Birth Place: Illinois
Residence Date: 1 Jan 1925
Residence Place: Fort Madison, Lee, Iowa, USA
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relation to Head: R
Marital Status: Widowed
Father: Harry Forman
Father Age: 64
Father Birth Year: 1861
Father Birth Place: Illinois
Mother: Clara Handshay
Mother Birth Place: Illinois
Parents' Marriage Place: Illinois
Household Members:
Name Age
Fred Wickless 78
Georgia Rhyne 33
Velma L Maul 13
Wm F Maud 10

Source Information:

Ancestry.com. Iowa, State Census Collection, 1836-1925 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2007.

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