Update to Fan Chart app

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I have continued work on the Fan Chart app, and this morning have posted the most recent version with some very significant improvements and new features.
Check it out here:
https://apps.wikitree.com/apps/clarke11007/fan.php

Here are the new features I'm most excited about, and hope you are too:

• Save to PDF 
• its sister function:  copy a Sharing URL that you can send to family members
• LNAB option / show Lifespan option / fill in wedges with colour
• Colour by grandparents, or by country or place of birth
• Highlight ancestors based on DNA inheritance
• The whole app has been rebuilt and the UI now has the WikiTree look and feel, and uses drop down menus to complement the minimalist icon row

Here is the complete set of Menu options, to give you a sense of what's now available.

As always - I look forward to your feedback, and especially if you find bugs !

You may also want to check out the updated Help Doc which gives some more details:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gYv-HVFHpoLf7qxQ4EHIl4iVnsus-N5lMz6mH2TBBlo/edit?usp=sharing

- Greg

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I tried it on my 9.7” iPad and only the “Login To WikiTree” and “Other Views” menus are active. The other menus are inactive.

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Update.  Just discovered that I have to press and hold on the other menus. Tapping and releasing only works on the two menus mentioned in my prior comment.

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Ah !  Good to know!  I was wondering what the problem was - I have an iPad and it has been working fine.  I never noticed the difference between interactions.  On mine, if I do a light tap, the drop down menu remains open, so then I can pick a submenu item.   Glad you found a solution.

 - Greg

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When selecting a five or six generation fan chart, the whole menu area starts to shrink on five and gets really small on generation six (about half the horizontal width of the screen, note, I am viewing in landscape mode), but returns to full size on the other generations.

It does this if selected from the Fan Settings menu or -1 or +1 options.

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I've noticed that as well, Tommy.  That's a function of how the browser works and tries to "help you out" by fitting the screen with as much of the view as possible. The alternative is to only show a portion of the fan chart at a time, which defeats the purpose of seeing the big picture.  On an iPad, the ability to pinch to zoom in or out can help you work around that, so you can zoom in when you need to access the menu items. (I know, a bit of a pain).  On a laptop or desktop, most of them now respond to CTRL + or CTRL - keys (or COMMAND + and COMMAND - on a Mac) to zoom in or out.

Hope that helps.  Thanks for letting me know though - if this was happening because of something I'd done, I'd definitely want to know. But, as it is, I believe it's the browsers doing their own thing.

 - Greg

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Outstanding!  This is absolutely phenomenal, IMHO.  Feature-creep:  Is there ANY way to include the WikiTree ID along with dates for each person???????????  (At least on the lower-numbered generations;  I don't think it's feasible at the 10th and 11th generation out...)

Really just thinking out loud.

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Thanks J. A. !  There is an option under the Fan Setting menu to choose "Show Lifespan".  I haven't added the option for "Show Full Dates" which could show actual dates, not just years ... is that what you're wondering about?  

As for WikiTree IDs ... if you popup the Ancestor Card (click on the icon that looks like a Monopoly(TM) card in the icon row - or click on any ancestor's first name), then the popup card displays their name and full details (including birth and death dates and locations) - as well as a link to their WikiTree profile - and - a minifan chart icon which will generate a brand new Fan Chart with that ancestor as the primary person.

Will that suffice ?  OR ... do you want the WikiTree ID embedded in each cell for each ancestor to see them all at a glance ?

IF so ... you will probably have to wait until after the Clean-a-thon this weekend before I add that feature ...

 - Greg

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Hi, Greg --

Far be it from me ADD to your "hobby" workload!!!  I truly appreciate the fan chart.

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Very impressive Greg! A great thing to have. I can instantly see what ancestors and details are missing with a single click rather than having to go back through all the person profiles. Thanks.

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just wanted to say hi Greg & family

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You're most welcome Geoff!

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Great app! Thanks for all your hard work, Greg!

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Thanks for your project. I have been looking for this in wikitree for sometime. If I was at my home profile or my regular tree, what clicks would take me to your fan view? Thanks.

note: sometimes things are hard to find in week. maybe I just do not understand how to look for them.

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Greg, this is a wonderful tool!  Thanks!

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Hi there Richard!  Excellent question - and - as of yesterday - there is a much easier answer for that!

Chris has added this as a feature in the Family Tree & Tools page.  SO .. here's what you do:

* From your own Profile, choose My Wikitree--> then goto Family Tree & Tools.

(If you're viewing someone else's profile, then underneath the menu item with their Wiki ID, click on their submenu item for Family Tree & Tools)

* Then ... scroll down below the big Family Tree ... and in the list of other tools ... in alpha order .. will be a link to the Fan Chart ... and when you click on that the person whose profile you're on will show up in the Fan Chart up to 5 generations.

 - Greg

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Awesome !! I was working with it a bit this morning on an iMac, Catalina, using Safari. No Problems !!

Some of the colors don't work well on my setup - but I found the customization options. Great !! I will be able to customize it to my taste and computer hardware.

Amazing that you can do this.

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Thanks LG.  Yes ... I'm a bit "hard of colour", so some combos are hard for me to distinguish.  My preferred colour palette is best described as "garish" .. the Default colour scheme is a toned down to the one I usually start programming with (so it's easier for me to tell the differences).  I've tried to make some of the preset palettes appealing (but welcome input), but did think adding a customization feature would solve the problem for those who needed to tweak it further to their own needs / liking. Also, you bring up a good point - even the best colour scheme on one computer could look like junk on another one.

Enjoy!

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Great tip. This is much better. Thanks for your answer.

By the way, I added this statement to my Profile Bio so others can easily find my fan chart.

==Ancestors==
[https://apps.wikitree.com/apps/clarke11007/fan.php?i=Y&ph=3&NumGens=5/ FanTree]

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I just updated my macOS and iPadOS yesterday evening to its latest versions and all apps. Tried RootsSearch and the Fan app and I didn’t experience any issues.

I use Safari on both.

I looked at the fractal chart using print and viewing as pdf on the macOS and it looks great: 5 generation, letter size, portrait & 6 generation, legal size, landscape.

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Very nice Richard!  I love that you decided to add the link to your profile - very cool.

However, might I suggest that you use the Sharing URL, instead of the current URL in your browser window?  The difference is that the Sharing URL will capture everything about the current settings on the Fan Chart you are looking at, and will always return the same image for those that click on it (Of course, if you update the people in your fan chart, or add other ancestors within those generations, that will appear automatically there)

However, the link that is used in your browser's location bar only passes the most recent changes to your current fan chart (it keeps the majority of data and info in your browsers temporary memory, which gets wiped out when you start a new session, restart your browser etc..).  Clicking on the link you've added to your profile may, but may not, give other visitors what you want.  Using the Sharing URL will guarantee they get exactly what you want!

Go to the Fan Help menu, then choose the Sharing URL option, and then copy it ... and paste !

Thanks for the great idea about adding it to your profile - hadn't thought about that use case when I first made the app!

 - Greg

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Nope, his url didn’t work. I clicked it from the email message.

It took me to the fan app startup screen where you enter an wiki Id.

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I just started adding my wiki tree ancestor urls to my tree on Ancestry Last night.

Richard just gave me the idea that I can share the fan url too to Ancestry.

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The collaboration and sharing of ideas is what I have found so valuable in my short time on WkiTree.

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Yes - here's a comparison using my own tree.

I've just customized the look of my own tree to display it using a nice green background for each wedge, out to 6 generations instead of the default 5.  The last thing I did was to change it to a semicircle, which passes a new angle to the server so it can redraw the Fan Chart properly.

Here's the URL I get from the location bar in my browser if I copy it directly from there:

https://apps.wikitree.com/apps/clarke11007/fan.php?ph=3&Ang=90

If you click on that, then it will reformat your own Fan Chart, if you had one open, to be a semicircle, but not do much of anything else.  If you're not logged in, it will take you to the login screen.

HOWEVER .. .just two more clicks and you get the Sharing URL (click Fan Help -> click Sharing URL -> click COPY URL button) .. then past it here in this message:

https://apps.wikitree.com/apps/clarke11007/fanDev.php?ph=1&id=Clarke-11007&NumGens=6&showLifespan=Y&colourRepeats=Y&useLNAB=Y&Ang=90&showHighlights=N&showWedgeBackgrounds=Y&ColourBy=GGPs&HighlightBy=none&palette=Greens 

See what you get when you click on the second link - should be what I intended you to see in the first place.

 - Greg

PS - true confessions:  I just noticed in replying to this, that there was a wee bug that, for some people, made the SharingURL pass 'none' as the id.  I've fixed that now I believe.  If you still have troubles with the Sharing URL - please let me know - but test it again - fixed at 11:45 EDT today.

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I just tried to update to the sharing address. Now my chart is a simple red semicircle. Even when I go to the regular tree and tools and select fanchart, I get a red semicircle. For me, the chart works fine from the address I first shared above. Suggestion?

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Now I am getting the red semicircle for all my charts. Your share link works correctly.

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The first link took me from email to enter a Wiki ID number.

The second link took me from email to the six generation green background fan chart.

I closed the tab and now the first link from email now loads what the second link does.

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Switched Safari to private mode.

First link goes to enter wiki ID

Second link goes to desired fan chart

First link continues to go to enter wiki ID

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Yup - that's what I expected Tommy.  The second link, from the Sharing URL, should always work.  The first type of link (copied directly from the browser's location bar), will sometimes work, but not always, and if you're not logged in with a Fan Chart already on the go, will take you back to the Enter Wiki ID page.

Richard:  Hmm .. the red semicircles are I believe due to some extra characters at the end of the URL ... check to see if you have any trailing spaces or carriage returns there.  I think it may be trying to interpret a palette and not matching the string properly.  Let me investigate and get right back to you.

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I changed a red semicircle chart to "default" palette and it works. But copied shared url to my profile and it produced a red semicircle. Displayed OK after changed setting to default. Can that parameter be passed through the url? Casual user will not know to change it. Greg this only happened after I first copied the shared url to the profile. Work fine when I first set it up. Thanks.

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Charles Osbourne Bowyer is my maternal great grandfather his parents were Leonard II and Nancy Jane Grimes who died  and Mary Matilda Bowyer is my maternal great grandmother who was Leonard II and Catherine Grimes (Nancy's sister) daughter.  They had same father but different mothers who were sisters.  This means my grandparents were first cousins.  Why on the fan chart is Leonard II brown for Charles and Mary Matida's father.

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I noticed for the 10th generation on the left side of the fan that the name touches the wedge at the top of the name. Looks like it needs to come down a pixel or two.  The distance under the name looks like it could be split in half to use that space above the name.

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Yes Greg, I used the standard suggested format.

[https://www.familysearch.org/ FamilySearch]

I left the "/" in place. Once removed it works fine.

Thanks. Great App.

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I added a “sharing url” link to Ancestry and it loaded correctly for me.

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HI again ... I've tweaked the code when looking at the palette parameter, and if there's some detritus now, it ignores the extra characters, and only checks for valid palette options.  Hopefully now all Sharing URLs should be accurate and avoid the red semicircle of nothingness.

 - Greg

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Ah .... so .... totally different issue .. interesting - hadn't even occurred to me that's what you were doing, but, does make sense when you say it out loud like that !

Good problem solving on your part!

 -Greg

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HI there Sharon,

Leonard Bower II is highlighted a different colour (brown if you're using the standard view) because he is a Repeat Ancestor in your family tree.  I've colour coded repeated ancestors so you can see when they appear more than once.

You'll see if you extend your fan chart out to 7 generations or beyond, you'll see more and more of these cropping up.

If you don't like that option, you can turn it off by clicking on Fan Settings, then click on Colourize Repeats to turn off the checkmark, and then all ancestors will be treated equally.

Hope that helps.

 - Greg

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Thank you , very nice !

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Wonderful work.

Thank you so much. We are also distant cousins, so thanks again, "Cuz"!

Jim LaBossiere

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Fan charts with 11 generations are very large images.  Does anyone know of a free and easy to use tiled printing program/app that can print a large fan chart?

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I would start at your local lumber yard or someone that prints house plans. If you have a pdf, they can usually print larger prints in one sheet. Hope this works.

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Loved this fan chart. Clearly saw where I need to update my tree.  Wonderful, thank you.

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Regarding my query about printing large images.  Greg Clarke's fan chart app lets you create a PDF.  Adobe's Acrobat Reader DC! is free and does tiled printing.

Check out the QR code in the upper right of your PDF.  It takes you to the original live chart in WikiTree.

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My apologies if these have already been asked and answered; my limited brain cells balked at reading all of the comments tonight.

(1) How do I zoom my view of the chart? All I've been able to do is to change the size of the text in the menu area, which is not what I want.

(2) The color by birthplaces view is all shades of dark pink. I can't tell apart that many shades of dark pink. Nothing I do under the "Colour Options" menu makes any difference: I can't get the different towns to show up in actually-different colors. What am I doing wrong?

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Hi there J,

(1) I have not built in a specific ZOOM feature into the Fan Chart app itself mostly because most browsers have their own built-in method for doing that.  On my Mac computers, for example, I use COMMAND + to zoom in, and then COMMAND - to zoom out, and that works in any browser I'm using - Chrome, Safari, Firefox.  (COMMAND key held down then press the + or - keys).  Windows does the same thing, using a different key instead of COMMAND).  On my iPad or iPhone, you can just pinch to zoom in and out.  Hope that helps.

(2) If you Colour by Country you get very distinct colours to use, and just yesterday, I added a feature to allow you to customize the colours by country if you wanted.

When you switch to Colour by Birthplace, I have it programmed to look at the Country colour, then choose a random shade of that specific colour, so that all places from Canada, for example, will be some shade of red, so that you can see the big picture of by country along with the varying degrees of movement within that country.

Alas, some of those distinctions are very slight and some work better than others.  That is certainly one area that I agree could use some improvements - but my sense of colour (depending on the shade) is not always up to the task, so, if you are volunteering to help me with that (and any others here with a keen sense of colour) - that would be great!

 - Greg

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Greg,

I would like to volunteer to take the custom color table and reorder it putting like colors together. You could then list the table after your current table. - Tommy

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Thank you.

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Greg  Thank you again.  These charts are great.  Can make booklets for my grandchildren and great grandchildren.  This is wonderful.  Thank so much for using this gift for us.

Sharon

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OK, so what you're saying is that there isn't actually an option to color by birthplace, there's only an option to color by country. (J and I would have to go back more generations than there are records available for, to hit a different country of birth.) This is... disappointing.

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Not exactly.  There ARE different colours for each birthplace, but they are just different shades of the colour selected for the country.  And, that does make it more difficult to differentiate one from the other.  I have to improve that aspect of colour selection - so - hence my request for volunteers for people with better colour eyes than mine.  I do have one volunteer already - so that's good!  Feel free to offer your help as well.

What I can do is to add an option to choose random colouring for towns (which was my original default, but, personally, I liked the ability to see how the towns were connected from the same country, hence the current setting) ... I'll put a note here about it when it gets done.

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I love this app Greg!!

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Thanks Bart!

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Yes, please, a "varied colors" (unrelated to country) option for birthplaces would be very useful for those of us with completely-monochrome color-by-country charts. (Really monochrome: my circle is white, and would be some other color if I actually entered anything on my profile -- which I ain't planning to do -- and my illegitimate great-grandmother's father wedge is white, but everything else is the same dark pink.) Twenty-six shades of dark pink just Does Not Work.

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The browser's zoom controls are not affecting the diagram, only the menu text. Firefox latest, Windows 10. Five generations fits on screen, at least width-wise, but anything more than that I get scroll bars.

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Wishful thinking-aloud: would it be possible to tweak the color-by-country to do color-by-county instead, and then do the color-by-birthplace as shades of the county colors? Yeah, yeah, I should just save the uncolored chart and play with it in an image editor, but how cool would it be to have it done automagically?

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Greg,  Would try to work on West Virginia and New Jersey.

Sharon

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For those who want a bit more control over colouring by Country or Birthplace, did you know that you can customize the colours in the palette?  I just added that feature to Birthplace now as well.  

Also, if you customize the colours in the Country palette, then the FanChart uses those base colours to create the gradient effect  when deciding on colours to assign to various Birthplaces, based on their country of origin.

If that provides too monochrome a display, there is now an option at the bottom of the Legend for Birthplaces that allows you to switch between country shading (the default) to unique colouring, which assigns random colours to each birthplace.  That unique colouring can then be randomized.

I looked at adding a level of colouring in between Country and Birthplace, and, have put that on my "WIBNI" list for this app (Wouldn't It Be Nice If ....).  I think you can achieve the effect you want now that I've allowed you to customize Birthplace.

OK - back to the Clean-a-thon!

 - Greg

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Thank you for all your effort.

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Ooh, very nice! Now to figure out which birthplace is in which county, so I can play with the colors "intelligently"... Thank you!

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Problem: neither the Sharing URL nor the PDF retain the color customization. Both go back to the default two dozen shades of dark pink.

Another problem: the legend/key box does not scroll or move, so if the list is too long, none of the links at the bottom are accessible unless you zoom out -- which makes the text unreadably small.

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Did you choose “Sharing URL” under the Fan Help menu?

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Tommy Buch: um, yes, I said "Sharing URL", didn't I?

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Oh my you guys!  Not only are you kicking the tires of this new feature, you're getting out the spare tire from the trunk and kicking it too!

It occurred to me as I was drifting off to sleep that the SharingURL probably wouldn't retain the new custom colours for the towns .... but thought .. they won't find that this quickly will they ??

sigh.

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OK - so - I think I've got the Sharing URL now respecting the custom colours .. mostly.  

There is something wonky happening - if you use custom colours for a certain number of generations - then try the Sharing URL -that should now work.  However, if you then reduce the number of generations and share again, that new Sharing URL doesn't seem to produce the desired results.  Not sure why.  This bug will take some more investigation.

SO .. the workaround is to decide on the # of generations you want, customize it, then share it.  

TIP:  When you're customizing colours, you can copy and paste the set of colours from the customizing screen and save it in a file somewhere, so that the next time you come back to your Fan Chart, if it has reset and you have to login again, you can just copy and paste the custom set of colours back into the custom colours textbox.

I have not looked at the Save to PDF function yet except to verify yes - it does not expect custom colours (I haven't updated the PDF features since adding these new options).

Unfortunately, these next two weeks are going to be super busy for me organizing a virtual math conference - so - I won't have much free time to do Fan Chart updates.   When I have some down time, I'll see if I can get the PDF to recognize custom colours - but can't promise when.

- Greg

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Workaround to PDF coloring problem: use your browser's print feature to print to PDF. You'll probably want to close the key to places, and you'll need to play around with zooming/formatting/choosing which pages to print, but it'll get the fan chart, with custom colors, into a PDF.

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Thanks M for posting that solution!  That buys me some time!  :-)

Answer 1

Wow, this is very slick. And you have made it very easy to use!

I have taken my 360-degree circular chart out to 8 generations to test this, at which point it makes me dizzy.

But I must report a flaw I found. The X-chromosome highlight feature only shows my X-chromosome inheritance on my maternal side. Being a female, I have an X-chromosome from my father, too.

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HI there Ellen.  Thanks for pointing that out.  I noticed that during a test this morning as well with a female cousin.  However, if I test it with my mother's profile ID (who has passed), it works fine.  

I think the issue is either

a) a login issue - if you haven't logged in properly, there is some data that doesn't get passed to the apps, like Gender of a living person,  (and the WikiTree login for apps on the apps.wikitree server has not been working today, but will be fixed shortly)

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b) possibly a privacy issue in general - logged in or not.

Once the WikiTree login starts working again, I can test that theory, and make the appropriate adjustments.

Worst case scenario:  I will add a popup to query for gender the first time you do a DNA highlight option so that it does highlight the proper cells.

Thanks!

 - Greg

PS - by the way - I KNOW that the YDNA is only inheritied father to son, so, it shouldn't be an option for you.  However, I made the decision to show the YDNA inheritance path, even if it is a woman as the primary person in the chart, since that would be the route her brother or father's YDNA would follow.  I was considering whether I should make a note about that on the screen if you've chosen that option - but - again - that would require me knowing in advance the Gender of the primary person  ... so .. I'll add this once I solve that issue.

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Thanks for explaining, Greg. My explorations lead me to conclude that the tool cannot detect gender on any profile that has a privacy setting of any level of Private. The X chromosome inheritance feature works OK for women with Open or Public profiles, but not for Private with Public Biography and Public Family Tree, nor any of the more private settings.

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Gender is indeed something that we keep private for Private profiles https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Help:Privacy#Private_information (though it's often absurd to hide it, because it can be inferred in many contexts).

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Thanks for clarifying that Chris!  That helps me out - I am working on a way of dealing with this ... will share later this afternoon.

 -Greg

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Good morning Ellen and Chris.  I have now added a popup if you go into the YDNA or X-Chromosome highlighting mode from a Private profile (where Gender info isn't available).  You then choose Male / Female / or Generic if you just don't want to say ... and the resulting fan chart highlights the path according to your response.  I've also added some wording at the top of each of the DNA highlighted Fan Charts to explain how we get each of these displays.

Hope that works.

 -Greg

Answer 2

I am extremely liking the fractal chart. I have been racking my brain on how to display the most info on a page, but have been stuck to thinking in the waterfall or pedigree way.  This opens the mind up to some other designs.

I also just realized that in landscape mode a 5 generation pedigree fits perfectly with a 2” column x 1/2” row area (or box) for printing (using 9 point for names and 7 point for dates). I am now working on adding the six generation.  Column 3 will be the 5th generation, column 4 will be the father of column 3 and column 5 will be the mother of column 3.  Columns 1 and 2 will contain the first four generations in some layout yet to be determined.

Fractal chart. Can you add these items to a menu that if checked will display their full name (maiden name for females) full birth date (dd mmm yyyy) and full death date (dd mmm yyyy) for the fractal chart. Something like:

To be edited later. I don’t want to lose my comment when I switch screens.

I would like places too, but that will probably need to be limited based on number of generations chosen so that it will look good confined to a single sheet of paper.

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Ah ... you found my next secret project Tommy!  Good for you!  I wondered how many might venture into that menu option and check it out ...

I have (in my development version) added the full dates option, and do plan to allow for place names, though that will require making the boxes bigger, so, if you choose that option,  you accept the consequences of using more space. However, if you have access to printing oversized documents - or - just want the PDF of it to browse, it's a trade-off worth taking, I think anyways.

However, further work on that might have to wait until after the Clean-a-thon this weekend.

 - Greg

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I have access to a 11 x 17 color laser and access to FedEx Office that can do 2 feet wide and I’m not sure if there is a length restriction. I’ll will find out if there is a maximum length.

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I checked with the FedEx Office in my area and the cost for a 3 feet wide (the maximum width that can be printed) by 10 feet long printout is as follows:

• Black Ink only - $30.00 ($1.00 / sq. ft.)
• Color (any amount) - $200.00 ($6.66 / sq. ft.)

Answer 3

Lovely app. Thank you!

Answer 4

This is amazing! Thank you! I did find one other glitch that I'm thinking might be related to privacy settings, but I'm not sure. Both my parents are living, but only my mother chose to be a "guest member" on WikiTree with public family tree; my father did not so his profile is 100% private. When I try to look at "DNA confirmed" ancestors, my mother's side appears correctly, but no one past my father is highlighted on his side even though several other ancestors are also DNA confirmed.

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Hmmm ... I'll have to investigate that one Audra. Makes sense that your father's status doesn't show, but if the higher up ancestors are public, I would have thought they'd show up highlighted if marked with the radio button for DNA Confirmed in their profiles.

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Good morning Audra,

Indeed, you are right.  The logic in my code basically goes like this: Check for DNA confirmation. If you find it - great - go up to the parents to see if THEY are also DNA confirmed.  If not (false assumption was ...), no need to go any further - how can you have a DNA confirmation with a break in the chain ??  (Answer:  If the DNA confirmation is hidden because of a privacy setting!)

I will add that wrinkle to my to-do list to revise the logic thereof.  That's a very interesting "bug" and not a scenario I would have thought of.

 - Greg

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Hi again Audra ... so ... your issue kept niggling at me until I had to fix it.  Please check it out now and confirm that your DNA confirmations are appearing as expected .. with the break in your grandparents because of your father's privacy setting.

 - Greg

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Wow, you're quick! I checked it out, and the chart does now show the DNA confirmed ancestors on my dad's side - EXCEPT neither of his parents are colored as confirmed when they are. Hope that helps! Thanks so much for all your work!

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Thanks Audra,

Yes - your grandparents can't be DNA confirmed because the confirmation comes from the child up to the parents.  Your dad IS DNA confirmed because your profile is public enough for the app to retrieve that data.  Since your dad's profile is private, I can't retrieve the settings that his profile says about your grandparents DNA confirmation level ... hence the gap, which seems counter-intuitive when your grandparents profiles are NOT private.

Hope that explains it ... (just get out a yellow highlighter after you print out the charts, and colour them in is my suggestion! ha!)

 - Greg

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Completely makes sense! I am fine with that and SO grateful for all the work you've done! Now, I need to clean up my locations like other posters have mentioned. This is such an exciting tool! THANK YOU!

Answer 5

I LOVE these upgrades.  And I learned some interesting things about place names:  When I do the Country Colors they are not very uniform (but generally should be on my father's side).  The popup box that shows the color coding reveals all the different country (or lack thereof) name variations.

Can we print or PDF download only one parents side of the fan chart?  I work only on my father and would like to see that in larger spaces, so it would be nice to view only that.  I could imagine that other people would want to work on only one side or another at a time.

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A customizable solution might be easier than trying to gain agreement from everyone involved about what to give the same color.  For me, Quebec, Canada (from 1867) is different from Quebec Province from 1763 to 1791 which doesn't have Canada in it.  But there are 4 different uses in my chart that are all OK during that 1763 timeframe that I would want to color the same.  Customizing *might* also give me the opportunity to give a different color to Acadie, Nouvelle-France than to Canada, Nouvelle-France, if the lookup table could include the two words, not just the last one. :)  What??  you mean you are going to give the Clean A Thon priority ;) haha

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Thanks so much Greg! These fan charts will be great to send to family/friends with the custom colour options you mention.

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Oh my gosh, Greg, you are amazing.  Now we have Acadie, Nouvelle-France a different color from Canada, Nouvelle-France!  Thank you!  My chart is looking better and better, too.  A few profiles on the County colors still ahve two colors.  The country appears correct filling the box, but I'm not sure what the other color overlay is for?

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Ha!  You found my early morning's work without me even telling you!  I've almost got the customized colouring working for Countries ... stay tuned for that.

As for two tone colours - not sure why that is happening.  Can you send me a Sharing URL for your chart?  Then I can see the parameters that are creating that effect for you.

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https://apps.wikitree.com/apps/clarke11007/fan.php?ph=3&NumGens=9

hopefully you can see this.  I'm not familiar with a "sharing URL" other than to copy and past mine.

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Hi there Cindy,

SO (1) Customize Colours is now an option when you Colour by Country (not by Town)

(2) To find the SHARING URL -> go to the Fan Help menu (far right) and choose the second option (Sharing URL).  Copy the text in the box (click the big copy button), and then email or paste that here to share.

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... AND ... I think I've solved the mystery!

The ancestors with two tone colouring are your repeat ancestors Cindy!  The bottom shading, the colouring in of each wedge, is the Country colouring as per the Legend.

The highlight bar under each name is there to make it easy to see how they are repeated so you can identify them elsewhere in your Fan Chart.  For example,  Marie Tetreau (1768 - ?) + Joseph Meunier (1754 - ?) - they appear twice as the parents of  Elisabeth, then down a generation of Judith.  Note that the background on Marie filling the wedge is the fill colour of the Quebec Province, whereas the highlight colour is unique to Marie and not associated with a Country code.

Make sense?

You can turn off the Colourize Repeats settings in the Fan Settings menu, which might be preferable when focusing on the Countries of origin.

 - Greg

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Oh yes, I remember now.  I began to suspect that when I came to the same name and though, haven't I already fixed this?  Turning off that effect makes it much easier to see to country colors.  Now I have a few that should be another color, names look right, other people with those names have correct color.  Two sets:

on the bottom left of 9 generations:  All are Acadie, Nouvelle-France (Dugas, Brun) yet Bernard Bourg and Marie Dugas next gen down are more of a medium yellow.

Higher up in the fan are two med yellow profiles Achin-3 and Pierre Parent, Guillet-37 but they should be light yellow, based on same name, right?

I know you don't want to debug my whole fan, but I'm appreciating improvements as we go along here.  I'm learning and others may also.  Here's the Sharing URL:

https://apps.wikitree.com/apps/clarke11007/fan.php?ph=1&id=Bourque-574&NumGens=9&showLifespan=Y&colourRepeats=N&useLNAB=Y&Ang=60&showHighlights=N&showWedgeBackgrounds=Y&ColourBy=Country&HighlightBy=none&palette=Default

Whoo hoo, I'm feeling smart right now!

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Cindy - I owe you a quarter! (I had a math teacher in high school who gave us a quarter everytime we found a mistake with one of the answers at the back of the book.)

You found a bug ... if the location started with Canada or Acadie (and no village name before that), it didn't recognize it properly with my new method - so - it only stripped off the Nouvelle-France portion - hence the different colourings.  I believe it's fixed now, and ALL locations with Acadie, Nouvelle-France should be the same colour, regardless of whether they have a town identified or not.

Let me know what else you find !

 - Greg

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The custom colors works!  I changed all the Quebec to one color and bazinga! there they were.  I think keeping the original program to a different color for each name is good because I've been able to make a lot of corrections of the anomolies in names as a result.  Now I seriously have to work on the native birthplaces because they are all done differently.

Answer 6

If you want a new challenge/opportunity, I see on the 180' and 240' options, there's a blank space underneath the center person, which is a lovely place to put a descendants chart.... just saying 

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You are evil for putting that idea in my head! .... oh no ... another rabbit hole ....

Answer 7

This the first time I've looked at this app.  All I can say is ...this is AWESOME!  Thanks

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Thanks Rhonda!

Answer 8

I tried the app on myself and loved it.  Then tried on Hubby and the chart came back completely blank.  Took me some time to figure out that the problem is that he is LIVING.  So are his parents.  I guess you need to warn people that it doesn't work for living people.  Probably doesn't work for anything except OPEN profiles.

Also, it appeared (by slowness of painting) to continue to attempt to process descendants even though there was no way to follow.

Answer 9

Greg is there a way to produce a fan chart for someone whose profile you manage but they are still alive? I've tried and it builds the chart but it's void of any names. Thanks.

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HI there Morgan,

What I've found out so far is that if a person is Living, but not a WikiTree member, then their information is Unlisted and super private.  Trying to create a Fan Chart with their info gives the blanks you're talking about.  Even WikiTree members who have Unlisted or super high Privacy settings for themselves, even when logged in, will also get those blanks.

HOWEVER ... (I did this for one of my sons as a test just last night because of a similar question to me) ... if you go to your family member's profile, and enter an email address for them - THEN - they will get an email invite to join WikiTree.  They can then follow up with that - and it's a very easy process - click on email to confirm, and setup a password, then they are in!  At that point, then they can go to the Fan Chart (My WikiTree -> Family Tree & Tools -> scroll down to Fan Chart), and produce the Fan Chart for themselves.

Not sure if there's another way to do this, but, that worked for my son.  AND .. good news for me .. since I created his profile initially, I'm the profile manager, and once he became a member, I can create a Fan Chart with him as the starting person, and it shows up for me.

Hope that helps.

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Thanks for this Greg. I'll give it a go.

Answer 10

See the new DNA features of the new fan chart app displayed here by Peter Roberts:

Have you seen the DNA features of the new fan chart app?

Answer 11

Greetings my Fan Chart fans!

I have been working on a number of changes to the Fan Chart - some of them aesthetic, some functional. Before I release the latest version, I thought I would give those of you who have helped me out with suggestions a chance to preview the changes, and let me know if there are any bugs you find that I've missed.  Tommy Buchs has been very helpful as well to give me feedback throughout this latest phase - thanks Tommy - but it's possible there are things that both Tommy and I have missed, and I welcome another set of eyes .... or many.

To see the Latest version that's in development - go to:

https://apps.wikitree.com/apps/clarke11007/fanDev.php

Thanks in advance!

 - Greg