Is there a John Doe's burrial list in Australia

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My great-grandfather Nicol Rea/Rae born 1848 Forfar Angus ran off with a divorced woman calling herself Mrs. Parsons she had a small son, not his and they may have been traveling to Victoria in Australia. Nobody ever sighted him again if he had died en-route and was buried as a John Doe would there be a list of these people anywhere in the country to refer to? Several members of my family have had DNA's done so if other children were born they would possibly show up as 3rd to remote cousins.
in Genealogy Help by Heather Douglas G2G6 Mach 1 (13.3k points)

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This looks like you family coming in on the Duke of Portland to Brisbane in 1900 

Captain D C Long  Left London 1th Dec 1899 , Arrived Brisbane 13th February 1900

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 http://www.archivessearch.qld.gov.au/Image/DigitalImageDisplay.aspx?ImageId=38313#page=25&view=Fit&ispdf=true

Qld Data set : Assisted immigration 1848-1912 (R)

https://www.data.qld.gov.au/dataset/assisted-immigration-1848-to-1912/resource/46df45c1-f98c-41ab-b5b6-42a0699bfee7?filters=Last%20name%3ARAE

by Lesley Robertson G2G6 Mach 1 (16.2k points)
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Various other family members tried to trace him his son James in the 1930s. My aunt his niece in the 1940's. I spent 6 months daily on Trove looking up, James, John, Mac and Nicoll. The two Nicol Reas in Australia Prior and after him related also from Forfar uncle and cousins. I checked shipping lists contacted people in other countries through White Pages phoned wrote numerous letters. So I think he either changed his name totally or was killed or died somewhere along the way. However, hope springs eternal that somewhere someone will be able to solve the mystery for us. As my grandmother always said " Never say die till a dead horse kicks you" and I am still waiting for this to happen. Thank you, everyone, all my best wishes for your research in the future.
Thank you for the Shipping lists they are really interesting so diverse (I think one of my husband's brother-in-law's ancestors from Ireland is on it!) I thought I would copy the names of other passengers that came from Forfar and see if they are on my DNA (probably are as everyone would be related) however there is a chance that he might have turned up on someone's doorstep and asked for a job. My grandmother said they had a wonderful trip out even though they were situated in the bottom of the ship and their mother had to cook for them on a small stove.

They slept in hammocks the boys had to muck out the animals on deck and feed them daily. They were well treated by the crew and other passengers and it was a happy time in their lives. They had to travel to London first and that was exciting because they saw Queen Victoria and other sights. They left the ship with about 3 wagon loads of goods as well as animals had to travel through the bush from place to place only getting directions and additional supplies in each small place they entered and just about died of starvation when they got lost. A drover found them as evidently people passing through a town were told to look out for others that they should see en-route and report them to the next town if they were missing.
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Heather, do you have any idea when this flight might have happened?  You say he was born in 1848 but was he middle-aged, old-aged?  Did he remain in Victoria, or move again?  Each Australian State is responsible for BDMs, not the Commonwealth government, so that will make searches more difficult.
by Kenneth Evans G2G6 Pilot (205k points)
The problem is we don't really know the date he set off on with this lady to leave the State. We know the family arrived in Serena Mackay in Queensland in 1901 with their goods chattels and stock it was already in the middle of a drought and the older children had to go out into the surrounding area to cut tree branches to feed the animals. Only a few months after they arrived a bush fire enveloped the area and so there was no feed for the cattle. During the time they had been living there. The father had not worked using the excuse that after falling from a horse he was not able to. However he went into town daily after lunch and two of the children about 10/12 followed him so they knew the name of the person he was visiting and where she was boarding, this would make it about 1902. The last day they did this was the day after the bush fire was put out. It had started to rain, they saw outside the dwelling that their dad visited. The cart being loaded up with baggage and watched them get into it this set off out of town and over the bridge onto the track which led out of town. My grandmother said they stood and watched until the water rose right over the logs that made up the bridge. Their intention being they didn't want the older brother or brother, inlaw or cousin to ride after him and bring him back so perhaps 4 hours at least with good horses time to get into Mackay which was the next town. They may not have even gone to Melbourne but presumed this was the case as that was where she came from. After the weather cleared up the family just walked off the selection that they had whi8ch was 999 acres with a Glasgow lease. The older people associated with the family went their own ways and great-grandma and the older brother and the younger children were given work with a German couple locally who had no children and were blissfully happy there for 6 months. When the second eldest daughter who had gone to New Zealand with her husband wrote to say that they had arranged work and accommodation for whoever wanted to travel there and they arrived sometime in 1904 in a place called Levin set up to provide goods and chattels for the last link of the railway from Wellington on the Main Trunk Line.The boys in the family and the mother seemed to go back and forward to visit or work in Australia almost all their lives but said nobody had ever seen or heard of the father since the day he left the district. I managed to trail the woman for a couple of years and although she registered the boy in his name in Melbourne he was definitely not great-grandfathers as that would have been wrong place wrong time. No chance of DNA there as he was killed in the First World War and she probably remarried. Great-grandfather may have even gone overseas but the family searched in the past and I have searched for 50 years unless he changed his name to something totally different he just has vanished off the face of the Earth. I was hopeful that with DNA someone might match us but I guess we are now just running out of time.
That's correct I have a pension application made by the oldest brother that says he was not sure of the date, thought it was 1901. Also, our great-grandmother had an interesting habit of putting her children's ages up or down depending on what advantage it was to them. So they were always arguing amongst themselves about their correct age. In 1949 she did a trip around England and Scotland checking at Somerset House in London first and then visiting all the places her older sister had listed and said the children had been born.Then purchasing birth certificates there for them. However, these even were not entirely accurate as working people having to depend on others when they went to town registering the children for you, did mean sometimes the names and spellings were not correct anyway. My grandmother didn't even know her Dads name was Nicol or the surname was spelled Rea not Rae before she did this I think the only correct certificate was her baby sister who grandma seemed to have named after 3 generations of the family maybe to get the message across that this is final. Perhaps that why he strayed, evidently he never smoked, drank or gambled and never hit them, was very handsome and the women were always chasing him, maybe this time, he thought that opportunity doesn't always knock twice and everyone was managing quite nicely without him working anyway. Thank you
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'''Death''' Qld BDM 1902/B/2341 in 21/4/1902, John Nicol Rea, (F)John REA, (M)Isabella MUIR.
by Ben Molesworth G2G6 Pilot (136k points)
Related but not him from Dundee
This family were in Australia long before mine and their children were born there. A long time ago they had a large and impressive website online with a lot of pictures, that has since disappeared I made contact then and we couldn't discover a connection although they came from the same area and are probably distant cousins. Thank you
That's alright. I just did a search around, and that was the only one I found.

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