Inappropriate Project assignment

Question

Can profiles be "unassigned" to Projects?

In particular, I have an ancestor who immigrated from Germany to New York as part of the Poor Palatine Migration in 1709, but who is currently protected by New Netherland Settlers project. The project has been unresponsive, perhaps because this person was not Dutch, and migrated to North America after 1674. While he married into the dutch community in Orange County, New York Colony. The Palatine Migration Project would be much more appropriate, and might be more responsive.

As a general matter, should the Poor Palatinates be protected by the New Netherland Settlers project

Comments

I added the tag for each of the two projects; hopefully someone will be over here soon.

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Who is the person you are concerned about? (Profile number, please.)

I am a Leader for both projects, but I cannot help unless I know who you are asking about.

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Muhler-2, but I would also like a discussion of the more general question.

Answer 1

Phew! This profile had a great deal of editing activity in the last few days, including additions or removals of project account and project box. And there was a merge that looks like it may have combined profiles for two different men.

The man was a Palatine migrant, so he belongs in the Palatine Migration project. I have added that project.

There is much potential for confusion between Palatines and New Netherlanders. There were quite a few Germans among the New Netherland settlers, so being German does not automatically mean that a person was not a New Netherlander. Also, the camps alongside the Hudson River where the 1710 Palatines were placed were rather close to the various established settlements of New Netherlanders and their descendants that were centered around the Kingston Dutch Church, and there were more than a few marriages between Palatines and sons and daughters of the New Netherland community.

As explained on the NNS project page, the New Netherland Settlers Project has 3 project box templates that are used on profiles for which the project is a profile manager:

• {{New Netherland Settler}} for those that arrived or were born in New Netherland prior to 24 Oct 1674.
• {{New Netherland Descendant}} for the descendants of the Settlers born between 24 Oct 1674 and 04 Jul 1776.
• {{New Netherland Community}} for people who were significant in the history of New Netherland or were part of the Dutch-dominated New Netherland community (prior to 1700), but do not meet the criteria for being a "New Netherland Settler" or a descendant of a settler.

This man was a Palatine Migrant who married a New Netherland Descendant (in the Kingston Dutch Church). Their child would be a New Netherland Descendant.

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Their child would be a NN Descendant, but Muhler-2 would not. He should not have any of the NN tags, as far as I can see.

I apologize if I've butchered the profile, but have been trying to clean it. The road to hell is lined with good intentions ...

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Thank you for mentioning good intentions, Richard. We all need to assume that other members had good intentions.

In this case a project member mistakenly assumed that this man was a New Netherlander. This is hardly the only time that this kind of mistake has been made (and it will not be the last) because the information can be confusing.

I do not know whether two different men were merged, but I did see notes about one profile being Philip and the other one being Johannes.

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Henry Jones (p. 672) wrote quite a bit about this Johannes who married Jacomyntjen Schoonmaker, as well a Johann David Muller who married Margaretha Wolff (p. 667). The two couples were conflated in this profile at some point. Many other Philips and Johannes and Johann arrived at about the same time, and Jones spends many pages disentangling them.

The Johhannes in this profile may have been the brother of a Philipp Muller; they served in the militia together and were naturalized together in 1740/41.

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I would also note that Henry Jones was careful to note the very complicated issues related to the various Müller Palatine 1709 immigrants.  Jones made a best guess based on the available data, but he left open the possibility that his guesses were simply wrong.  The index of names under "Müller/Miller in the Jones Palatine books indicates that this is a complex problem.

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I'll add that at one point this profile had the template "New Netherland Community" which according to Ellen's post above *is* appropriate for this profile and ones like it. (Especially given that this man married into the NN community.)

But if the Palatine Migration project covers this era (does it?), that is another project that could be involved.  So next question becomes, when a profile falls within the scope of two projects, how do we decide which project should manage the profile ?

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Jillaine, the New Netherland Community project box is used for people who were in New Netherland by 1700. It does not apply to the Palatines who arrived in 1709-10.

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Thanks for the clarification.  

The NNS project has long confused me.  Happy to see greater clarity.  So is this issue closed?