The Pretorian was located in- U.K. Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960. The Hesperian was located in- Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935. The lists contain my grandmother Mary Cruickshank and her four children, Robert-Donald-John-Carherine. The Pretorian left Glasgow on June 17,1912, bound for Montreal, Quebec..The Hesperian arrived in Canada on30/June/1912. No info on time or date ship left Scotland. Hope someone can help sort this out..thx New info shows family transfered from one ship to the other.