Lookup Needed. Roberts, Gary Boyd; Ancestors of American Presidents.

Question

Lookup needed . Elizabeth Smith m. to William Ely, wasn't the daughter of Nehemiah Smith (currently on Wikitree). Does the Roberts book, indicated her birth date and parents?

Thank you.

Comments

An article in The American Genealogist came to the conclusion that Simon Smith is the correct father. (See TAG 1964[41:132-135]) However more recent sources claim Elizabeth's parents are Edward Smith and Elizabeth Bliss. (See Connecticut Nutmegger 2005[38:189])

Subscription needed but here is the link   https://www.americanancestors.org/databases/connecticut-nutmegger/image?volumeId=11786&pageName=189

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Elizabeth Smith

 in the North America, Family Histories, 1500-2000

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Name:	Elizabeth Smith
Gender:	Female
Birth Date:	16 Aug 1664
Father:	Edward Smith
Mother:	Elizabeth Bliss
Spouse:	John Baley

Source Citation

Book Title: A genealogical history of the descendants of the Rev Nehemiah Smith of New London County, Connectic

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Elizabeth and John Bailey

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Smith-74475

Answer 1

The Connection Finder shows Gerald Rudolph Ford as 8 Degrees from Elizabeth Fry.

Elizabeth Smith is the mother of Daniel Ely who is the father of Wells Ely, father of Amy Ely the mother of Elizabeth Gridley the mother of Amy Butler the mother of Adele Ayer the mother of Dorothy Gardner, the mother of Gerald Rudolph King.

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first, bury her in Connecticut

Elizabeth Ely

 in the Connecticut, Deaths and Burials Index, 1650-1934

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Name:	Elizabeth Ely
Birth Date:	abt 1661
Age at Death:	89
Death Date:	10 Oct 1750
Death Place:	Connecticut
Gender:	Female
FHL Film Number:	3121

Source Information

Ancestry.com. Connecticut, Deaths and Burials Index, 1650-1934 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2011.

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Mrs Elizabeth Ely

 in the The New England Historical & Genealogical Register, 1847-2011

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Name:	Mrs Elizabeth Ely
Event Type:	Death
Death Date:	10 Oct 1750
Death Place:	Lyme, Connecticut, USA

Source Information

Ancestry.com. The New England Historical & Genealogical Register, 1847-2011 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2011.

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Robin Lee has discovered this was transcribed with errors. My apologies 

MAYBE A GOOD CLUE ?

 Boston Transcript, 6 April 1926, #2215

Elizabeth Ely, widow of Capt. William Ely, July 29, 1748, deeded to her sister Mary, widow of Ebenezer Parker, lands inherited from her father, Simon Smith, deceased. (Haddam Land Records, Vol. 5, folio 23.) Other similar deeds simply gave us a superfluous wealth of evidence. One we will refer to, since it throws light on the date of death of Elizabeth Ely. Her sister Mary Parker, Sept. 22, 1750, deeded to her son Abner an interest in land she had bought from her sister Elizabeth Ely of Lyme, lately deceased and also lands formerly belonging to her father, Simon Smith of Haddam. "The Ely Ancestry" has this transcription from the gravestone of Elizabeth: "Mrs. Elizabeth, relict of William Ely, died Oct. 10, 1750, in the 89th year of her age." The Parker deed shows she died before Sept. 22.

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WHEN THE CORONA VIRUS CRISIS IS OVER

maybe more info from

http://www.haddamhistory.org/history_haddam.htm

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yes

Mary Smith married Ebenezer Parker

Mary Smith

 in the Connecticut, Town Marriage Records, pre-1870 (Barbour Collection)

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Name:	Mary Smith
Marriage Date:	3 Sep 1694
Marriage Place:	Saybrook, Connecticut, USA
Spouse:	Ebenezer Parker

Source Information

Ancestry.com. Connecticut, Town Marriage Records, pre-1870 (Barbour Collection) [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2006.

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Simon was real

Simon Smith

 in the New England, Select United Methodist Church Records, 1787-1922

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Name:	Simon Smith
Record Place:	Haddam Neck, Middlesex, Connecticut, USA
Event Type:	Other
Church or Organization:	Methodist Episcopal Church of Middle Haddam

Source Information

Ancestry.com. New England, Select United Methodist Church Records, 1787-1922 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2014.

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Simon in

Description of the settlement of Haddam. From A History of Haddam and East Haddam by David Dudley Field, 1814. Available in digital form by Google Books, https://books.google.com

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https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Smith-2080

Simon

all the children named in will are not profiled

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The Boston Transcript is part of the NEHGS Library

Answer 2

This family is in the last generation given by Roberts, as ancestors of Gerald Ford. William Ely (1647-1717), m. 1681 to Elizabeth Smith (c. 1662-1750), so their parents, if known, are out of the scope of the book. Roberts also cites “The Ely Ancestry” by MS Beach, Wm Ely and GB Vanderpoel., For them.

Comments

examine my comments 

Do they look good enough for sources to disconnect from Nehemiah and connect to Simon ? 

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https://www.americanancestors.org/databases/boston-evening-transcript-genealogy-pages-1911-1940/image?volumeId=37741&pageName=Apr:2

In his will, in 1687, Simon does not mention his daughters' last name, many believe that if Simon's Elizabeth was the wife of William, he would have mentioned she was married.

I still think we "do not know" which Elizabeth Smith was his wife.....