Is anyone closer than 16 degrees to Wallis (Warfield) Windsor?

+19 votes
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I am 16 degrees from Wallis Warfield windsor through my Hash and Sturgill ancestry.

I am also 7th cousins, 3 times removed from her with our common ancestor being Nicholas Gassaway.  Note that my connection line is shorter than my relatinship lien to her.
WikiTree profile: Wallis Windsor
in The Tree House by David Hughey G2G Astronaut (1.7m points)
16 degrees from Wallis Windsor, a 14th cous, 4x removed.

Her first husband, Earl Winfield Spencer Jr, is a 5th cous, 4x removed.

Mike: Your connection path (in Connection Finder) is just 16 steps, same length as the one David describes. The Connection path includes the Spencers. smiley

Yes, it's 16 steps, but not closer than 16 steps, so doesn't qualify.

7th cousin 3x removed, common ancestor Nicholas Gassaway.
Got a hugeeee feeling my 1st husband is but I'd need to summit DNA of my kids.

22 Answers

+14 votes
Not even close 13th cousin once removed
by Chris Hoyt G2G6 Pilot (864k points)
But you are just 16 steps in Connection Finder -- through a path that includes the same marriages that connect me to her.
But I thought the connection finder doesn't actually connect anyone by genealogical relationship, isn't it like 6 degrees from Kevin Bacon?
It finds the shortest connection by combinations of blood and marriage.

Chris, your Connection Finder connection to Wallis runs through Wallis's second husband Ernest Simpson. to his daughter by another marriage, to one of her husbands, to that man's father, to a wife of that father, to that wife's earlier husband, and finally to some more mundane-looking New England genealogy (Orvises, Whitins, Prentices, and Hoyts). Connection Finder connections are all genealogical, but many of them are not by blood.

Always thought it was Kevin Bacon path, and now, from your answer, I think it's Way too confusing, although thanks for the explanation.    ( and I think the Chris' - Hoyt and Whitin - would not necessarily feel their ancestors were mundane!!!  LOL)
+15 votes

9th cousins twice removed.

by Ron Campbell G2G6 (7.4k points)
+14 votes
I'm not close either. 14th cousins, once removed.
by Lucy Selvaggio-Diaz G2G6 Pilot (827k points)
Check Connection Finder, Lucy. You are just 18 steps through her first husband.
+13 votes

17th cousin, 4x removed.  

Watched all of "The Crown" last month.

Hmm.... had never even considered...

https://www.wikitree.com/index.php?title=Special:Relationship&action=calculate&person1_name=Warfield-8&person2_name=Baty-260

by SJ Baty G2G Astronaut (1.2m points)
+11 votes

Nope, 21 degrees; 20th cousins once removed through Joane (Holand) Radcliffe 

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Holand-13

No relation to her first two husbands, but her third (and last) husband is a 19th cousin twice removed through Edmund FitzAlan.

by Carol Baldwin G2G Astronaut (1.2m points)
+12 votes
15 degrees through my 4th great-uncle Levin Handy's wife Henrietta Dorsey Ball (her mother was a Dorsey), and 7th cousins 3x removed; common ancestor, Mareen Duvall.
by C Handy G2G6 Pilot (209k points)
Check Connection Finder. You are just 15 steps away!

In terms of "have met X who met Y who met Z" I'm five steps away; me > my grandfather > his great-uncle Levin C. Handy > his uncle by marriage Mathew B. Brady > Edward VII > Edward VIII

+12 votes
No. She's only a 16th cousins three times removed for me.
by John Manifold G2G4 (4.2k points)
+13 votes

Just 12 steps in Connection Finder, via an interesting connection path that involves a couple of different people's multiple marriages.

No biological relationship within 15 generations, though.

by Ellen Smith G2G Astronaut (1.5m points)
+11 votes

Wallis and I are thirteenth cousins. We both have the same 12th great grandfather and 12th great grandmother. We are both descendants of Constance (Leventhorpe) Cotton and Clement Cotton.

by A. Creighton G2G6 Pilot (931k points)
+12 votes
Wallis Windsor (Warfield) is my 8th cousin through my Howard ancestry.
by James Stratman G2G6 Pilot (103k points)
+11 votes
Not closer - 19 degrees, though rather astonished to find that my connection to Wallace is through her third husband, Edward VIII, his brother George VI, and his wife, Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon (the late Queen Mother).
by Jeanette O'Hagan G2G6 Mach 3 (38.9k points)
+10 votes
It appears that I'm 13 degrees from Wallis through our Howard lines.  The relationship finder says we are 5th cousins, twice removed.
by Robin Shaules G2G Astronaut (1.5m points)
+12 votes
She's my 5th cousin 3x removed.  John Gaither is a common ancestor.
by Gale Elliott G2G Crew (930 points)
+8 votes
n the connection finder.
by Kurt Driver G2G6 Mach 1 (13.1k points)
+7 votes
6th cousin 2 times removed...through Warfield line on my mom's side of the family (our common ancestor is John Warfield [1674-1718]).
by Michele Westfall G2G Crew (810 points)
+6 votes
5th cousin, 4 times removed. But John Howard's granddaughter Ellender is uncertain.
by Leah Chaillet-Hines G2G6 Mach 1 (18.0k points)
+6 votes
Fourteen degrees through my grandmother, a Shipley.
by Kurt Driver G2G6 Mach 1 (13.1k points)
+4 votes
I am

- 17th cousin 2x removed

- 16 degrees from her
by Robert Clark G2G6 Pilot (942k points)
+6 votes
I am 15 degrees from her per connection finder.  I didn't know about any relationship until I came across a Reader's Digest article my grandfather had saved that provided a clue.
by Fred Roe G2G2 (2.4k points)
+5 votes
16 degrees from Wallis Windsor, and also 10th cousins, once removed.
by Cheryl Cruise G2G6 Pilot (186k points)

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