Conflicted ancestry of immigrant Stephen Post (PGM)

Question

Given Robert Charles Anderson's 2007 report about the immigrant, the two children attached to Stephen Post / Post-542 would be a match to Stephen Post / Post 102. This is in conflict, however, with the parentage and deeper ancestry reported about Post-542.

Stephen Post / Post-542 has been associated as the son of an "Abraham Van Der Poest" and grandson of "Panwell Van Der Poest," with the former born and died at England, but the latter (grandfather) born and died at Holland.

(1) Lacking an explanation, the cross-continent association sends up a little red flag (parent born and died on one contenent, but child born on another). The grandfather's profile is sourced to Geni.com. It is not clear from the profile of the father whether any of those sources report a child-parent association with the grandfather.   

(2) The 2006 source that follows provides for historical references and reports the elder immigrant, Stephen Post, was baptized in 1604, son of Abrahm Post (not Abraham Van Der Poest) and wife, Ann Hurst (not Ann Hunter). This clinches the contlict. See Steve Carter, "English Ancestry of Stephen^1 Post of Saybrook, Connecticut," New England Historical and Genealogical Register 160 (2006):30-34; digital images, AmericanAncestors.org (accessed 2014).[In his Great Migration reprt about the elder Post, Anderson cites Carter's work for Stephen's parentage.] Clark goes on to identify Stephen Post's parernal grandfather as Thomas Post (not Panwell Van Der Poest).

 

How shall we proceed as to the profiles of parents linked to Post-542, Abraham Van Der Poest and wife, Ann Hunter. 

 

We could (a) mark those profiles as "questionable" and proceed to create new profiles about the identified parents of immigrant Stephen Post. In the alternative, we could (b) sever Abraham Van Der Poest (Van_Der_Post-6) from the link to Panwell. This would pave the way for us to update now Van_Der_Post-6 and Hunter-3421 so each reports the findings published by Carter. 

 

Thoughts? Challenges? Comments? 

 

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Comments

I just merged  Abraham Van Der Post (Van Der Post-11) and  Abraham Van Der Post (Van Der Post-6) as they were exact duplicates. There is a famous South African author called (Sir) Laurens van der Post http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laurens_van_der_Post - perhaps he is a descendant, though in this particular case both the parents and the children do not have this full Dutch surname.

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Hi Philip van der Walt,

I see and thank you.  This merge made the circle rather complete, by assciating Van Der Post-6, born Hollingbourne, and the son of Thomas.

Using that merge and the various updates others have contributed, I merge the profile of Van Der Post-6 into Abraham Post/Post-196. Likewise Van Der Post's wife, Anne Hunter, was merged into Ann (Hurst) Post/Hurst-1296.

There are a couple of related merges left to be made, but the profiles have been, I hope, greatnly improved by the collaboration via this G2G and on the different profiles.

Thank you all!--GeneJ

Answer 1

I would think that doing both A and B without creating new profiles would be the best choice. By marking them as "questionable" and moving information about questionable ancestors or decendents to the biography would do less damage to the tree than creating new profiles would, and be less confusing for others who would research this.

Comments

In re reading the question if the new profiles are for persons not yet on WikiTree then creating them would be acceptable, but the links to anyone else should also be marked as questionable until they are proved or disproved. another option would be to use the unprovenParents template.

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Hi Dale,

Thank you for your time, interest and insight.

The 2006 article provides a good historical overview from which the parents and grandparents of our Stephen Post can be known. Other than Van_Der_Poest-6, there are acutally three profiles somehow associated as the immigran'ts father--Post-196, Post-817 and Post-429. Following a little source work, Post-817 and Post-429 are ready for merge; (Post-196 has an conflicted daughter that we are still working to resolve.)

So, our immigrant could be severed from Van_Der_Poest-6 without creating additional profile.

That approach would permit us to mark Van_Der_Poest-6 as "questionable," thus provide for us to sort out whether or not Panwell Van Der Poest had such a son. And, in if he did, to learn if that son had a wife, "Ann Hunter" (Immigrant Stephen Post's mother is Ann Hurst, but she is apparenlty seen in family files as "Ann Hunte.").

How does that sound to you, Dale?--GeneJ

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I for one think that what you suggest is fine. My personal belief is that when in doubt do a little as possible but do it accuratly. As long as no information is lost and there is notations as to what is unproved or uncertain I would think that it would only help. Just from my limited research on other lines I have encountered many misspelling of names, even when viewing photocopies of official documents that I only would remove links or change spellings with a preponderance of evidence.

Answer 2

Thanks Gene for noticing this. I'm open to any & all suggestions. In the meantime I will spend some time checking sources for this profile. If anyone finds the correct info feel free to edit.

Comments

Hi Doug,

Thank you for your time and insight.

I started to add sources and references on Stephen's profile (Post-102), but I didn't carry tham "over and up" so-to-speak.

I didn't quickly identify historical records that would answer questions about the family of Parwell Van Der Poest. Knowing whether or not he had a son, Abraham, would help much.

Thank you again for your time and insight.--GeneJ