Question

Tottenham-134 and Loftus-439 are still not merging.

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In reviewing the change history for these profiles, I see that you have rejected the proposed merge a couple times, and then proposed the merge again, which begins a new 30 day auto approval time period.  The last proposed merge was on July 1st, so you will be able to merge them after Aug 1st.  But if you reject the merge again, and then do a new merge proposal, it will take another month, unless the other profile manager, approves the merge.

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Thankyou Patricia,  I was in a learning stage back then......couldn't find the date of my previous post until it showed up below this one......this merge joins my tree to WikiTree on one branch.    Jack

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Great - just a few more days till that happens.     Thank you for all your WikiTree contributions.  

Answer 1

>Lord Robert Tottenham - Wikipedia  Robert Ponsonby Tottenham (5 September 1773 – 28 April 1850; Robert Ponsonby Loftus until 1806) was an Irish Anglican Bishop in the first half of the 19th century.[5] from Burke's Peerage 1967 p1201

He was born the younger son[6] of Charles Loftus, 1st Marquess of Ely and Jane Myhill, daughter of Robert Myhill of Killarney, in Woodstock, County Wicklow [7]on 5 September 1773 [8] Upon his father's death, he inherited the Tottenham Green estate, changing his surname to Tottenham

all of which goes toward explaining why one surname is an alias to the other surname, it was a legal change, the LNAB has NOT changed, LOFTUS

LATER in life, upon his father's death and his inheritance of the estate and title, he THEN changed to Totteham but THAT is not his LNAB 

NOT to say the two files do not need to be merged, they do, but the LNAB (LOFTUS) is correct ... think you can use TOTTENHAM under OLN (Other Last Names used) 

Agreed, he DIED as surname Tottenham and is likely buried under that ... you'd need his death record to determine that

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If he used Tottenham later or did a name change, then that becomes his Current Last Name, just like married women.

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Ah, I was just going to ask about that .. he was born LOFTUS and LATER, upon inheritance when his father died, he "changed his surname"... I am SUPPOSING this was done legally papers and courts? and all but that is also something that would have to be discovered I am guessing

But, John, the LNAB of LOFTUS is correct, that's what he was born as, and should NOT be changed to TOTTENHAM --

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Susan,  That's a good description....... I learned about LNAB using this merger to join my family to WikiTree, on this branch.     Jack    PS  His father's LNAB was originally Tottenham.

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So dad was Tottenham, but HE was Loftus at birth, and so he should be recorded (as his dad should be LNAB Tottenham, CLN Loftus).

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Hi Melanie, The father, Charles Tottenham married Elizabeth Loftus and changed his name to Loftus, as a condition of inheriting her uncle's estate, and named the first son Jqhn (second son Robert, my ancestor). His brother, John married Elizabeth's sister, Anne, and named their son Charles. Robert  changed his name back to Tottenham to inherit his grandfather, John Tottenham Sr.'s estate......There....lot's of fun from memory......hope I got it right.    Jack

Answer 2

Done dealcheck it out.......Thankyou all.