End of my Irish line in Kerry - James Joseph Roche b. 1875 Knocknagosel. Mother may have been Margaret Joy?

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asked in Genealogy Help by Glenda Roche G2G2 (2.8k points)
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The birth registry (https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1875/03108/2140056.pdf) seems to confirm margaret Joy as the mother and the birth date as 17 Feb 1875. The district is Brosna but I cannot locate the townland.  In any case, the western edge of that district borders Knocknagashel.  

The church record shows the birth was a day later and the baptism on the 21st instant.  The birth location is Cnocbeag and the baptism was in Knocknagashel. 

Area - KERRY (RC) , Parish/Church/Congregation - KNOCKNAGOSHEL

Baptism of JAMES ROCHE of CNOCBEAG on 21 February 1875

Name JAMES ROCHE

Date of Birth 18 February 1875

Address CNOCBEAG

Father JAMES ROCHE

Mother MARGARET JOY

Sponsor 1 JOHN JOY

Sponsor 2 MARY CONNOR

Priest REV.P.PIERSE

Book Number Page Entry Number Record_Identifier

1 53 N/R KY-RC-BA-360923

There are also two siblings:
Area - KERRY (RC) , Parish/Church/Congregation - KNOCKNAGOSHEL
Baptism of MARGARET ROCHE of LIVAITTE on 28 November 1869
Name MARGARET ROCHE
Date of Birth 25 November 1869
Address LIVAITTE
Father JAMES ROCHE
Mother MARGARET JOY
Sponsor 1 GERALD JOY
Sponsor 2 ELLEN DONOGHUE
Priest REV.J.O'CONNOR
Book Number Page Entry Number Record_Identifier
1 18 N/R KY-RC-BA-360393
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Area - KERRY (RC) , Parish/Church/Congregation - KNOCKNAGOSHEL
Baptism of JOHN ROCHE of CARRIGLIAGH on 30 May 1872
Name JOHN ROCHE
Date of Birth 28 May 1872
Address CARRIGLIAGH
Father JAMES ROCHE
Mother MARGARET JOY
Sponsor 1 ROBERT JOY
Sponsor 2 BRIDGET CURTIN
Priest REV.M.O'FLAHERTY
Book Number Page Entry Number Record_Identifier
1 36 N/R KY-RC-BA-360666

The parents married in the first quarter of 1869 (Tralee, Vol. 1, p 740) The image is not yet available at irishgeneaology.ie but should be added early this year.  Perhaps the image will show the name of the father of each.  There were many church records for James Roche and many for Margaret Joy so without the name of the father it is difficult to know which records might match.

answered by Thom Anderson G2G6 Mach 2 (26.2k points)
selected by Maggie N.
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Hello Glenda,

have you tried searching the old parish register records yet?

There are links in the following project to help you http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Project:Irish_Roots

All the best

Billy

answered by Billy Wallace G2G6 Pilot (210k points)
Hi Found this source on Family Search .org Hope it fits.

Name; Margaret Joy

Gender; Female

Husband; James Roche

son; James Roche

Name; James Roche

Gend; Male

Birth Date; 17 Feb 1875

Birthplace; Kerry, Ireland

Fathers Name; James Roche

Mothers Name; Margaret Joy

"Ireland Births and Baptisms, 1620-1881,database Family Search (https;//familysearch.org/ark;/61903/1;1;FR4J-SBH ; accessed 29 Mar 2016), Margaret Joy in entry for James Roche, 14 Feb 1875; citing Kerry, Ireland, reference; FHL microfilm 255, 926.

                                             Healey-268 Susan Garth

Have also got source for his brother John Roche same Parents born 29 May 1872 in Brosna Kerry Ireland. will put source if if it fits.

 Healey-268
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My 5th great grandmother's maiden name was Jay/Joy and she was married in Devonshire, England in the 1700s.
answered by Betty Manning G2G Crew (350 points)

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