John Married Elizabeth Sharratt in 1894 and they appear in census in Hucknall Torkard in 1891, 1901 and 1911. I can find her in earlier Census with her family. My best guess for him so far was 1861 Census living Wednesbury Staffs with grandfather Daniel and aunt Suzannah. In 1851 he had another daughter, Emma, born 1836, who in 1861 Census was living with a dressmaker, Sarah Waterhouse, as apprentice. Illegitimate maybe, but finding proof? Thank you everyone for your efforts!