John J. Moran

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Looking for some conundrum breakers assistance. One of the men my biological mother married used an alias (see Moran-4022), I was able to sort him out a bit, however, his father (Moran-4704) has stumped me. I've found a marriage certificate and one census record. There is a possibility he worked on a ship as part of the crew, based on some research documents that came up. I don't know how to prove or disprove this. His employment on a ship would explain his wife citing herself as married in following census records, yet no husband accounted for in the household. Any assistance/guidance/suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

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John J Moran

 in the New York State, Birth Index, 1881-1942

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Name:	John J Moran
Gender:	Male
Birth Date:	7 Mar 1901
Birth Place:	Oswego, New York, USA
Certificate Number:	8684

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John Joseph Moran

 in the U.S., World War II Draft Cards Young Men, 1940-1947

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Name:	John Joseph Moran
Race:	White
Age:	41
Birth Date:	1 Nov 1900
Birth Place:	New York City
Registration Date:	15 Feb 1942
Registration Place:	Bronx, New York
Employer:	U S Department of Agriculture
Weight:	122
Complexion:	Light
Eye Color:	Blue
Hair Color:	Black
Height:	5 10
Next of Kin:	Annie Moran
Household Members:	Name Relationship John Joseph Moran

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John J. Moran

 in the Newspapers.com Obituary Index, 1800s-current

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Name:	John J. Moran
Gender:	Male
Death Age:	71
Birth Date:	abt 1901
Birth Place:	New York City
Residence Place:	633 87th Ave. N.
Death Date:	1972
Obituary Date:	14 Oct 1972
Obituary Place:	St. Petersburg, Florida, United States of America
Spouse:	Annie
Child:	Jack Yolandr Dereraux Shirley Vlcnaire
Siblings:	Martin

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John Joseph Moran

 in the New York, Abstracts of World War I Military Service, 1917-1919

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Name:	John Joseph Moran
Birth Place:	Brooklyn, New York
Birth Date:	abt 1901
Service Start Date:	24 Apr 1917
Service Start Place:	Brooklyn, New York
Service Start Age:	16

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This shows John and Florence together in 1930

Florence Moran

 in the 1930 United States Federal Census

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Name:	Florence Moran
Birth Year:	abt 1905
Gender:	Female
Race:	White
Birthplace:	New York
Marital status:	Married
Relation to Head of House:	Wife
Homemaker?:	Yes
Home in 1930:	Manhattan, New York, New York, USA
Map of Home:	View Map
Street address:	27th Street
Ward of City:	12 Assembly District
Block:	E see also Sheet 1A
House Number:	324
Dwelling Number:	36
Family Number:	360
Age at first Marriage:	26
Attended School:	No
Able to Read and Write:	Yes
Father's Birthplace:	Ireland
Mother's Birthplace:	Ireland
Able to Speak English:	Yes
Household Members:	Name Age John Moran 29 Florence Moran 25 Alice Moran 6 Gerald Moran 4 Edward Henderson 58 Alice Brickelmeyer 36
Neighbors:

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John is also here in 1940

Alorence Moran

 in the 1940 United States Federal Census

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Name:	Alorence Moran [Alorence Henderson]
Age:	34
Estimated birth year:	abt 1906
Gender:	Female
Race:	White
Birthplace:	New York
Marital status:	Married
Relation to Head of House:	Wife
Home in 1940:	New York, Queens, New York
Map of Home in 1940:	View Map
Street:	48 Street
Inferred Residence in 1935:	New York, Queens, New York
Residence in 1935:	Same Place
Sheet Number:	3A
Attended School or College:	No
Highest Grade Completed:	Elementary school, 8th grade
Income Other Sources:	No
Neighbors:
Household Members:	Name Age John Moran 38 Alorence Moran 34 Alice Moran 16 Gerald Moran 14 Edw Henderson 75

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Florence Moran

 in the Newspapers.com Obituary Index, 1800s-current

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Name:	Florence Moran
Gender:	Female
Death Age:	80
Birth Date:	abt 1904
Residence Place:	Myrtle Beach, S.C.
Death Date:	Abt 1984
Death Place:	Myrtle Beach
Burial Place:	South Brunswick
Obituary Date:	9 Oct 1984
Obituary Place:	New Brunswick, New Jersey, United States of America
Child:	Alice Keene Gerald

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Betty, thank you for taking a peek at this, however, I do not believe the Manhattan John J. Moran & Florence Moran are the same family group as the one I am looking for. 

Florence M. Schnibben Moran is found in the 1930 census with her mother in Brooklyn. She is also found in the 1940 census. Making the Manhattan grouping highly unlikely, although it would have made things much easier.

https://www.wikitree.com/index.php?title=Schnibben-5&public=1

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The Brooklyn military enlistment John J. Moran is a more likely possible. His eventual wife, Florence Schnibben, appears to have kept to the Brooklyn area.

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The Manhattan Moran family group, evidently, are John Clementine Moran & Florence Henderson Moran.