The Six (!) wives of John Warren 1525-1576?

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As a "source" for John Warren of Suffolk, England we seem to get the unsourced William Cutter. I've not been able to determine who Cutter used as his source. Depending on which profile among that of John and his present six wives is viewed, we get discussion of three wives or perhaps five purported to be documented by various marriage and other indexes. Over at Ancestry his marriages may be seen to have occurred in several English counties as well as the US State of Ohio.

Could some of our England colleagues assist in finding at least one or two primary source records to assist in separating fact from what may be a lot of fiction?  Thanks.
WikiTree profile: John Warren
in Genealogy Help by T Stanton G2G6 Pilot (202k points)
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Here is a marriage to Margery Firmety, at Great Horkesley, Essex (about 2 miles from Nayland). The parish register image is available (via subscription) from Essex Archives Online. The entry is:

John Warren & Margery Firmety marryed 30 Januar [1568/9]

by Nic Donnelly G2G6 Mach 6 (66.0k points)
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I'm wondering if we have multiple John Warrens. I've not got to it yet but was going to look for burial records for any of the women. But, wondering what may be online for this period.

This pedigree published in The New England Historical and Genealogical Register (1910) vol. 64 pp. 346-355 is based on analysis of relevant wills and parish register entries, transcribed on the previous pages of the article. It seems very thorough!

Edit: Added full citation for pedigree

Thanks! (I think.)
Yes, the NEHGR appears very thorough and certainly suggests we are only looking at three wives absent some other primary source to connect one of the other wives.

It appears to me the two Unknown Unknowns would be the same person as NEHGR has them, not two different wives (which may be read unsourced at Find-a-Grave). It appears he did have two sons (both lived) named John. They are differentiated and the second is referred to (in the will) as the "myddle" which I interpret as the middle of the three sons by the first wife. If the two Johns had different mothers, there would be no explanation (that I can think of) for one being called "myddle."

Star for the NEHGR link -- somehow didn't come on my radar so major thanks for finding it.
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"England Marriages, 1538–1973 ", database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NLMP-5TG: 13 March 2020), John Waren, 1559.  This is a marriage to Christian Hinsam that took place at Stoke by Nayland, Suffolk, England on 10 Dec 1559
by Elizabeth Viney G2G6 Mach 2 (27.3k points)
Just a note for those following, there's nothing in the record to suggest the John Waren is subject of the profile. We have several men of the same name in neighboring parishes.

The burials register for Nayland appears to contain burials for Anne (wife of John Warin of Corlie) 25 Nov 1567 (currently seen as Agnes is WikiTree); and last wife Margaret given as "wife of John Warrin at Carlie, 19 Apr 1576."
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Suffolk Marriage Transcriptions on Find My Past have a marriage for John Warren and Agnes Howlet at Nayland on 5 Sep 1563. Here is a link for anyone who has a subscription. https://www.findmypast.co.uk/transcript?id=GBPRS%2FM%2F201024130%2F1

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