Help with Dutch translation/Transcription of Second River Church Minutes?

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Hi, I'm looking for some help translating/ transcripting a page from the Second River Dutch Reformed Church in Bergen, New Jersey. The document was written in 1725 and is quite legible. From my limited knowledge and the help of google translate, I believe it's some sort of charter or financial agreement for starting the Church. The charter/ agreement is 4 pages long but I think with a translation of the first page, I could figure out the next 3 as the writing appears to be quite formulaic. 

The record is found at Ancestry. Here's a link: https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/6961/images/43104_182029006040_0928-00126

I could also send a copy of the image if you can't get past the paywall. 

Thank you so much for any help!

in Genealogy Help by A. Van Winkle G2G1 (1.1k points)
I skimmed it. From what I could recognize, I got the impression that it was definitely about forming a new church, and I thought one passage was saying that a new church was because it the existing church was too far for the people of Second Creek to travel on a regular basis. But I think a lot of it is about matters like their price lists for services like burials.

If you are still willing to fool with Google Translate, you might trying running this through the Afrikaans language translation engine there. Some of our Dutch cousins have found it to be better than the Dutch language engine for translating New Netherland Dutch.
If you send/post the scan I could try my best.
Thank you, I'll also try Afrikaans.

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Thanks for e-mailing the scan.

Transcription first part:

Register der Kerkelijke Acten der Gemeente Jusu Christi tot Secund-River

Anno 1725 Den (missing date here)

Zijn door de gemeinte van Secund-River tot Opfienderen van 't bouwen van een nieuwe Kerk verkoosen Gerrit Wouterse, Frans van Dijk, Gideon van Winkel, Johannes Koning, welke persoonen met goedvinding van Kerkenraed en gemeinte dese navolgende Articulen hebben opgerigt en vastgesteld om volgens de zelvige de opbouwinge en verdere regeeringe der Kerke te reguliere welke Articulen aldus luiden.

En: The church community 'Secund-River' has chosen the mentioned people to start a church. They also got permission of the Church council. They will build the church and govern it. This is not so much a building, but the institute/organisation.

V1. ten Eersten. Dat alle de geene die in de jurisdictie van Nieuw-Urk woonen en Opbouwers zijn van de Kerk van Secund-River haer plaetsen sullen hebben voor Man en Vrouw, en dat de selve an haer sal blijven soo lang als sij haer Tractement voor de Praedikant betaelen an die voorseide Kerk, maer bij aldien iemant uijt ons Block, 't voorseide tractement niet betaeld voor de Reekening van ons derde part, soo sal zijn plaets weder vervallen an de voorseijde Kerk.

En Both men and women are welcome and will be offered a place in the Church, as long as they pay the Church.

Praedikant means this is a non Catholic Church. It is interesting to read they mention both men and women, and talking about money in the first chapter makes them Dutch for sure wink.

Nieuw-Urk is related to Urk. That was an island at that time, currently known for its very strict Christian society, amongst other things.

V2. Ten Tweeden.

En: continues about the seats, what happens if people die. For translating the rest: the f type of letter is a long s. ae is not used in current Dutch, search with a instead.

Gideon is your ancestor?

by Michel Vorenhout G2G6 Pilot (223k points)
selected by A. Van Winkle

Thank you so much for the translation and also the tips! Gideon is not my direct ancestor but he is the brother of my ancestor Johannis who moved to the Second River Church around the same time as Gideon. Gideon and Johannis both appear many times in the minutes section of the church records between 1725 and 1747. I think they both held leadership roles. It's interesting because they both seem to disappear from records between their marriages in Bergen and the establishment of the Second River Church where their youngest children are baptized.

Here are the wikitree IDs for both brothers: Van_Winkle-439 and Van_Winkel-8. 

Thanks again!

Top Michel!

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