Incorrect source

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Hello fellow wikitreers

I wondered how to edit source info that is incorrectly added to the profile of Eleanor Procter day of Richatd Procter & Elizabeth Alderson.

I say it is incorrectly because this person passed at age 15, much too young to be wed.

Thank You
in WikiTree Help by Niki Goodchild G2G Rookie (160 points)
Just edit the profile and remove the incorrect information.

I would also reject the proposed merge, if you are certain she died in 1830.

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I think I found the profile Eleanor Procter

If the birth and death dates are accurate, then the Marriage notice is incorrect because it is 25 years after she died.  BUT there are no sources on the profile for the birth or death dates, so the death date could be incorrect.  

There is a merge proposal with Eleanor Proctor who has a spouse that matches the name in that marriage source

It is very possible that there are 2 Eleanor Proctor / Procter in that area, one that died in 1830, one that married in 1855. Without sources, you can't be certain they are the same person or different individuals.

by Linda Peterson G2G6 Pilot (520k points)
I would be doubting that a woman born in 1815 was having children in the 1860s.

She would be 45.  I have seen people in profiles recently that had children through their 40s.

Both profiles in that merge have birth year about 1815, but with no sources, it is difficult to determine.  The Marriage Notice date is the only thing and it has no ages or parents. 

Checking the 3 children on the other profile, it looks like Eleanor was born about 1828.  There is an 1861 census on Charles Mowbray, middle child, that has Eleanor, head of house, age 33, Hartmoor, Durham with the three children.

If the PM is sure about the death date, then I would reject the merge stating that she is sure of the death date and stating the 1861 census shows that the wife of Charles was born abt 1828, not 1815

I'm wondering if the Eleanor married to the Mowbray isn't the child listed in the 1841 census as "Ellen".  She would be of the right age to marry in 1855.  It also looks as though the  child Ellen (aged 8), and the child Richard (aged 1) are the out-of-wedlock-born children of Frances Procter (aged 24) -- unless the child Ellen is the near menopausal daughter of the mother, Elizabeth (aged 50-54).  Remembering that the ages of those over 15 were rounded down. There is no Eleanor in the household in 1841.

IF they are the correct family.
It is possible this is an Eleanor '2' for the same parents because of the earlier one dying, also, since the age in census does not determine definite birth year.
Pretty funny Melanie, you looked at the parents of one profile. I looked at the children of the 2nd profile. Unfortunately then census as shown in the profiles has no formatting, so it is more difficult to see it.  Edit mode is easier.

Her mother Elizabeth would have been abt 41 when she had the youngest sibling Robert. The 1841 census that I found on Francis Procter-378, you can't tell who the mother of Ellen is since there are 3 women that could be mother Elizabeth, age 50, Mary, age 25 and Frances, age 24
I verified the children of the Mowbray marriage had a mother's maiden surname of Procter.

The younger child in that unformatted census (agreed, much more readable in edit mode) had no mother's maiden surname on registration.  The girl Ellen was born before 1837, so cannot be checked on the GRO.

What would be good would be a marriage registration page where the age of both bride and groom is recorded.

Charles Galbraith Mowbray died in 1860, aged 32 years -- therefore was born about 1828, not 1815.

I have doubts a 27 year old man would be marrying a 40 year old woman. (Yes, it could and did happen, but not often.)

Eleanor mother of the 3 was born about 1828 from those census.  I think the 2 are possibly siblings. The problem is you don't know who the mother is of Ellen from that one census with 3 women that could.

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