Abraham-461 ppp with out project box

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Getting error on Abraham-461 ppp with out project box.  Can someone fix this?  Thanks

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I was going to say remove the protection but the narrative indicates his parents are unknown but there are parents attached.  

Any idea what the source is for the parents attached?

If no source they need to be detached, added to a disputed origins section and the profile should remain protected.  

The narrative suggests he was in Virginia initially so US Southern Colonies could protect him. But if there's a Pennsylvania project, that might be better.

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https://www.wikitree.com/photo.php/b/b2/Abrams-973.pdf

Why is it project protected?

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Tanya, project protection is usually placed when there is any controversy about the data. In this case, there appears to be debate about the identification of his parents.

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I removed the PGM tag-- he was never in New England prior to 1640-- and added the Pennsylvania tag.

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I reviewed the pdf you linked to above. There's nothing in it about this Henry Abraham.

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I'm sorry, some how I ended up 2 generations down Henry, Thomas, Henry.  Too many same names in these families.

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Here is a link to the records search result that was shared on Ancestry.  I don't know who originally shared it.  I updated the link on his profile.  https://www.ancestry.com/mediaui-viewer/tree/86247368/person/46541418919/media/b51c66ad-fec2-4067-85d2-0366e4463062?_phsrc=gIE12375&key=Uhttps:%2F%2Fwww.ancestry.com%2Fmediaui-viewer%2Ftree%2F86247368%2Fperson%2F46541418919%2Fmedia%2Fb51c66ad-fec2-4067-85d2-0366e4463062%3F_phsrc%3DgIE12375&_phstart=successSource&clickref=1101lbcBIAEp,1101lbcBIAEp&adref=&o_xid=01011l4xx5&o_lid=01011l4xx5&o_sch=Affiliate%20External   

Thanks, Tanya

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Thanks, Tanya. So that's a candidate for the Henry Abraham who emigrated. Where does the mother's name come from? And why is there a Jewish roots sticker? That would seem to conflict with the baptism record.

I've cleaned up the profile but more work is needed.

Going back to the original question, it seems like there is enough uncertainty about this man's lineage (I see it goes back many generations) to warrant project protection. I'll try a bit harder to get their attention on this.

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I comb8ned some DAR references and added that as a source citation instead of part of biography. Also corrected a wikitree ID ref for a son

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Regarding the Jewish Roots sticker.  That comes from a great aunt.  She stated in a family history document that they were Jewish.  I believe they were Christian Jews.  At one point, my DNA from 23 and me showed Jewish. But it has since disappeared in the results section.  I will remove the Jewish roots stickers for this family as I don't  Believe they will serve any purpose, and unless there are cousins who have more of that DNA, I don't think there will likely be DNA evidence this far down the line.  Thank you so much for all thr work you are doing on this, you are an angel.

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Thanks, Tanya. You could make reference in a Research Note that some descendants believe that this line has Jewish roots (the surname is suggestive). But I concur that without further sources  or evidence supporting it, the Jewish Roots sticker is not appropriate in this case.

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Mothers name came from upload.  16:38: Tom Rhodes imported the data for Mary Elizabeth (Sidwell) Abraham (bef.1690-1747)

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Mothers name comes from marriage record which is sourced on mohters and fathers profiles  https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Abraham-306

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Sidwell-48

https://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/search-database/more-info/?t=marriages&id=441170

There is also a partial record that apparently came from the Cromwell researcher, I am unable to trace back to the person who originally shared all of the research documentation.  https://www.ancestry.com/mediaui-viewer/collection/1030/tree/86247368/person/46565078292/media/98e5ed30-c5cf-478b-b0e7-b2254ac3a8bf?_phsrc=gIE12606&key=Uhttps:%2F%2Fwww.ancestry.com%2Fmediaui-viewer%2Fcollection%2F1030%2Ftree%2F86247368%2Fperson%2F46565078292%2Fmedia%2F98e5ed30-c5cf-478b-b0e7-b2254ac3a8bf%3F_phsrc%3DgIE12606&usePUBJs=true&clickref=1011lbd59UFx,1011lbd59UFx&adref=&o_xid=01011l4xx5&o_lid=01011l4xx5&o_sch=Affiliate%20External

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Just when you think you have it all figured out...I just got a new hint for Henry the Grandfather which would indicate he was married to Sidwell Richards rather than Marha Eva Sidwell:

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/199959728/henry-abraham  

https://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/search-database/more-info/?t=marriages&id=441170

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An uploaded and unsourced gedcom is not a sufficient source. We need to find better source for the identification of the mother. 

The marriage source on the attached father's profile only offers a surname of "Abraham" for the groom and "Sidwell" as the first name of the bride. That second doesn't seem right. It's an index. Ideally, we find the original to see what it actually says. If the last link you provided is the original, all we see is the surname Abraham. Nothing else is legible.

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I'm not at all a fan of find a grave for anything other than the information carved into a contemporaneous stone, but the Sidwell first name does match the index.

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I wouldn't blink nowadays at Sidwell as a first name for an American girl, but in that time period it would be very, very unusual for a girl's first name.

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I saw others with that Sidwell as a first name as I was searching, there were probably not too many though.

Tanya

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I wonder if it was a transcription error when the index was being created. Do you find Sidwell as a first name when looking at the images of the originals?

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If you enter Sidwell as first name and no last name in search, there are quite a few that come up.

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I see what you mean about the first name Sidwell. Lots of baby girls named Sidwell in the results list https://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/search-database/baptisms/index.php?year_from=&year_to=&parish=&forename1=sidwell&surname1=surname&forename2=forename&forename3=forename&t=baptisms&bf=Search

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Jillaine and Tanya, thanks for the work you have done.  I'll dig in to this profile and resolve the protection issue, hopefully over the next few days.

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I have added the Pennsylvania project box to the profile, with the United States project account as a profile manager. Pennsylvania may not be the single best fit, but the best documentation for him seems to be related to Pennsylvania.

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Thanks both of you.