Comments on Ralph Neville

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On 17 Nov 2019 Neil Perry wrote on Neville-792:

This profile has suggestion 921 (PPP Without Project Account and without ProjectBox) against it. Please review the advice at https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Space:DBE_921 Please can someone add the correct project account that is protecting this profile and clear the suggestion?

This profile should lead back to Bigod-2 Magna Carta Surety. 

WikiTree profile: Ralph Neville
in Genealogy Help by William Collins G2G6 (6.7k points)
retagged by Darlene Athey-Hill
I've added a few more tags.  It should be noted that there is no issue with the project account/project box, as the message noted was from 2019 and resolved at that time.

William's point is that Ralph Neville is a descendant of Bigod-2.

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Based on the new Medieval Project's guidelines, it should be managed by the Magna Carta project. One of the leaders will probably notice this thread - if not I'll ping someone to take care of it. Thanks!
by Kirk Hess G2G6 Mach 6 (64.3k points)
The Magna Carta Project manages profiles in trails from surety barons to gateway ancestors. As none of Ralph's descendants are connected to a gateway (yet), his profile doesn't qualify for MCP co-management.
Thanks, Traci.  I don't see a reason for the Medieval project to co-manage it, either.

He's the ancestor of 5 gateways:

All of these are in the GASCOIGNE line v.3 pp.244-246 and none of those (#9-12) are part of the project yet:

Thanks for the info Kirk. Like I said ... Ralph's descendants are not connected YET. The Magna Carta project will add a project box/project section if/when the trails are under development. Although Ralph Neville is not included in any of the pending or badged trails you named above, you are correct that Ralph is an ancestor of Bladen, Carleton, Reade, Mauleverer, Saltonstall (MCA VOL 2 page 246). The project hasn't yet developed a trail that includes this Ralph Neville. There are thousands of trails from Gateways to surety barons and the Magna Carta Project's goal is to develop ONE trail for each Gateway. If you'd like to develop an alternate trail (i.e. trails other than those already set out on the Gateway profiles), please sign up for one of our teams and work on that trail using our checklist. Thanks!

I'll be reviewing the Reade trails sometime in the next couple of weeks and will pick up this profile at that time. I added a note on the Gateway's profile.
Thanks for that detail. The PM for Ralph and all three of the people on the watch list are not pre-1500 certified so he needs a new manager, and ultimately it will be the MC project account. I think it would be better to adopt the 4 profiles I highlighted above and put on the project box but if you don't want to do that, Ralph needs a different PM who is certified (& I will do it if you need someone). I think the Medieval Project account is a better choice. Or just remove the manager until he's developed as part of a trail.
I will pick these profiles up when I do the Reade trail re-review later this week/next week.
Sounds good - thanks Traci!

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