New tool to create copy-paste references for (Dutch) WieWasWie documents

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WieWasWie is a great free source for Dutch primary sources such as civil registrations of birth, marriage and death. Search is available in Dutch and English. Using WieWasWie as a source for WikiTree profiles requires some boring typing in of the essential data into the profile sources section, or copying a full result page and editing that text to include links to the archives.

Now, a simple free tool is available to create pre-formatted references you can simply copy-paste as an inline source.

You can find the tool at https://www.genealogietools.nl/formatter If you want to learn more, please visit the Free Space page.

The website Genealogietools.nl will be extended in the near future with some smarter tools. One focuses on getting suggestions for linked WikiTree profiles and/or documents for the people in a WieWasWie document. Follow the instructions to become a beta tester for that tool.

in WikiTree Help by Michel Vorenhout G2G6 Pilot (222k points)
retagged by Michel Vorenhout
Great ideas, thanks.

I have asked the creator of OpenArch a few months ago to add the link to the archive in the citation. I sometimes see it, but below the text, but in most cases it is still hidden in the button to the original document.

It shouldn't be to hard to make it though, let me think about it. OpenArch offers an API which is a real great help.

AlleFriezen and the other archives using the Picturae software: that is a bit harder as I do not have the capability yet to access that data without importing the whole set (and I do not want to create yet another search machine at this moment). I use wiewaswie to search the records myself, as Jan states.

At this moment I have little time to do programming, due to my work situation, and want to focus on the link between profiles and documents and a way to personalize your citation (without breaking general citation rules aka APA rules). I am afraid that is already quite some work. When someone with Pyhon 3 experience wants to help: send me a PM!
Thank you for your recommendation!
@Melle, I am currently working on the option to parse OpenArch links. Hope to release next weekend, testing in the coming days. AlleFriezen: I think I should be able to do that as well, so might come soon after that.
Great! Openarch is just a little easier searching without having to register. Allefriezen uses a name thesaurus so all name variants are searched without having to use 'jokers'.

Well, I for sure do not want to start the debate on the better website (again), everyone can have their preferences wink.

@Melle and others. I have updated genealogietools.nl just now with an experimental formatter for openarch.nl records. It works best with Burgerlijke stand records.

I will post a release message on G2G tomorrow, which will be used to track problems. Please do not post any issues here.

Bedankt, met openarch.nl direct uitgeprobeerd.smiley
De tool werkt veel sneller met openarch ipv wiewaswie.
De tabel met gevonden personen onderaan het scherm werd bij mijn testje nog niet gevuld, komt dat later ?
 

Thanks for expanding this for openarch! I love your tool for wiewaswie so I am really looking forward to this
@melle, allefriezen should work now

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Great tool, Michel!

Can't wait to see extended functions. like being able to store settings (like preferred data formatting) and word processing templates (substituting parameters by values in the wiewasiwe data) on your server.
by Jan Terink G2G6 Pilot (252k points)

Example:

Your generated bio

==Biography==
===Birth===
Neeltje Johanna Seisener was born on 1859-04-13 in Utrecht as the child of Hendrik Daniel Seisener and Johanna Geertruida van Casteel.

<ref name="BSGe86110">Burgerlijke Stand Geboorte 1859, Utrecht, Utrecht, Nederland. Akte 576 (1859-04-14), [https://hetutrechtsarchief.nl/collectie/383515DAF94A4E61B1E15D9CCA67D2D2 Het Utrechts Archief] accessed via [https://www.wiewaswie.nl/detail/28586110 WieWasWie Permalink]</ref>

===Death===
Neeltje Johanna Seisener passed away on 1902-08-19 in Utrecht.
<ref name="BSOv29469">Burgerlijke Stand Overlijden 1902, Utrecht, Utrecht, Nederland. Akte 1271 (1902-08-20), [https://hetutrechtsarchief.nl/collectie/0974EB3222A645FBB3851586D5D8EF07 Het Utrechts Archief] accessed via [https://www.wiewaswie.nl/detail/30729469 WieWasWie Permalink]</ref>

==Sources==
<references />

Reformatted (changes in blue):
==Biography==
===Birth===
Neeltje Johanna Seisener was born on April 13, 1859 in Utrecht, with parents Hendrik Daniel Seisener and Johanna Geertruida van Casteel.

<ref name='''Birth''' - "BSGe86110">Burgerlijke Stand Geboorte 1859, Utrecht, Utrecht, Nederland. Akte 576 (1859-04-14), [https://hetutrechtsarchief.nl/collectie/383515DAF94A4E61B1E15D9CCA67D2D2 Het Utrechts Archief] accessed via [https://www.wiewaswie.nl/detail/28586110 WieWasWie Permalink]</ref>

===Death===
Neeltje Johanna Seisener died on August 19, 1902 in Utrecht.
<ref name="BSOv29469">'''Death''' - Burgerlijke Stand Overlijden 1902, Utrecht, Utrecht, Nederland. Akte 1271 (1902-08-20), [https://hetutrechtsarchief.nl/collectie/0974EB3222A645FBB3851586D5D8EF07 Het Utrechts Archief] accessed via [https://www.wiewaswie.nl/detail/30729469 WieWasWie Permalink]</ref>

==Sources==
<references />

Thanks for the suggestion. You are one step further than most are I reckon.

Getting more options for the formatting is high on the list indeed.
Supplemented with Jan's suggestions, it would be perfect.  You can then immediately see which source it is.

The type of document is inside the name. BS: Burgerlijke Stand. Ge: Geboorte. I can extend it, making it longer though.

Adding a descriptor to the generated text for the inline reference is for sure possible. My first question would be which format is most preferred though. I have seen many types of reference styles used and got feedback that some do prefer to copy the full entry instead. It might be nice to have multiple options, so one can choose... that is one the list (but not too high).

If you want to work on testing the rest of the text that Jan is showing: become a beta tester wink

The format I use in the text (in the link) is: Type of document, Name(s) place and date.  For example: Geboorteakte Jan Jansen, Amsterdam 01-02-1903 or Ondertrouw inschrijving Piet Pietersz en Jannetje Jansse, Rotterdam 01-01-1686. Behind the link I mention where it comes from.  For WieWasWie this is more laborious than for example for Archives.nl.  So this tool is very welcome.
+5 votes
Werkt prima Michel, bedankt!
by Joop van Belzen G2G6 Pilot (122k points)
Dank je
+7 votes
Nice job! I'll give it a try. I normally use the Auto Text Expander extension in Chrome to make a inline references, but must jump back and forth to get the details.

The ref names look complex to me, would it be possible to set them to "Birth" and "Death" only? With marriages a key with the year and/or record number can be needed to allow for multiple marriages.
by B. W. J. Molier G2G6 Mach 6 (63.9k points)
The generator for the name needs something to start with. Just 'marriage' will collide as sometimes you have multiple of those in one profile. So I just added a part of the document ID to it.(It is not meant to be readable, it should be unique in my view).

I simply copy the identifier tag, add a / to it and use that for as a repeat inline reference in one profile.

Changing the name-id to another identifier is possible, but it needs to be something that is present in all documents. WieWasWie is not consistent at all unfortunately, as all archives use different templates in VeleHanden and besides the Burgerlijke Stand records there are many many others as well (census, DTB, passenger lists)... If you know if something that all records have that you prefer, please let me know.

Agreed on the marriages, but there is only one Birth (and/or Baptism) viz Death (Burial). This is a profile I created with your formatter, with a few tweaks: Oosthof-16

It works great! I was wondering if the bottom part of the screen could present the names in the record, so I could copy them in one click. I'm very lazy laugh

Can you be a bit more explicit on "present the names in the record"?

When all works fine you should see a table with the names and data taken from the wiewaswie page (used as a check).

You expect/would like something else?

Yes, all works fine! I would like to copy the names only. So for instance, the URL https://www.wiewaswie.nl/nl/detail/52824499 results in a table:

Name Gender Role Profession Birth Date Birth Place Age Individual
Fenne Vrouw Kind None None None None
Karssijn Kornelius None Vader None None None None
Fenne Siewerts None Moeder None None None None

 

This is great, but I'm lazy (I admit) and copy this table to the profile, where I start to delete all the text from the other columns, so I end up with the names of the people involved and build my bio from there.
+5 votes
Nice tool, it works perfectly
by Enoch Stuivenberg G2G6 Mach 5 (53.2k points)
Thanks!
+4 votes
Using this formatter a lot! Thanks again. Can you add shortcut keys? I can navigate to the "Copy" button by pressing Tab a number of times, it would be great to get the formatted text directly

After copying, I go back with 4 times Shift-tab for a New search.
by B. W. J. Molier G2G6 Mach 6 (63.9k points)
Thanks for the hint/request. I never tried with the tabs. Good point. I will see what I can do. Currently busy hunting a nasty bug that prevents me from upgrading. Have code ready to also reformat old style links and tweaking the speed.

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