Thankyou for your response
That must be the information other people have used. If that is the correct I wonder why he would not use the name the Charles on any census?
I had another look and i have found a marriage record for a Francis Loden and Catherine Bryans, that says his father his Richard
Name: Francis Loden
Spouse's Name: Catharine Bryans
Spouse's Birth Date: 1839
Spouse's Age: 19
Event Date: 18 Oct 1858
Event Place: Aghalurcher, Ferm, Ireland
Father's Name: Richard Loden
Spouse's Father's Name: John Bryans
Marital Status: Single
Spouse's Marital Status: Single
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M70218-7 , System Origin: Ireland-EASy , GS Film number: 101398 , Reference ID: 167
And then using that information
Name: Francis Soden
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 20 May 1828
Christening Place: MONKS RISBOROUGH,BUCKINGHAM,ENGLAND
Father's Name: Richard Soden
Mother's Name: Susanna
But on their marriage the surname is very different
Name: Richard Sawden
Spouse's Name: Susannah Kingston
Event Date: 07 Apr 1827
Event Place: Burton Agnes,York,England
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M10590-1 , System Origin: England-ODM , GS Film number: 919165
And other websites don't include Francis as a child.