What is a "manorial hunter"?

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I have a 1719 German marriage record in which the bride's father is described as "the manorial hunter in Preuschdorf".  Preuschdorf is in Alsace, which is now permanently part of France.  Does anyone know the significance of being a manorial hunter?
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For those who want to look at the original, the record is at http://archives.bas-rhin.fr/detail-document/ETAT-CIVIL-C375-P2-R219272#visio/page:ETAT-CIVIL-C375-P2-R219272-4088621 (second entry from top).

I think it reads "des herrschaftl. J├Ągers zu Preuschdorf". This would tranlate literally as "the lord's hunter in [the village of] Preuschdorf," though I think the meaning is more like "the lord's gamekeeper in the village" - i.e., making sure that the lord's manor was well-stocked for hunting and protected from poachers and from wolves or other predators.

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Thank you for the translation C-H.  Unfortunately, the link isn't showing me anything but a lot of French talking about reuse and tariffs, so I'll just trust your translation.
I'm sorry, the French are pesky about accepting "terms and conditions". On that first page, you need to scroll down to a button that says "accepter", press that, and then the desired page will show up.
Perfect!  Thank you C-H!
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> background reading which may help define The Manor System | Western Civilization

Generally speaking, manorial refers to the system of governance -- this is European so I'm not informed on the hierarchies of governance  

Manor - Wikipedia A manor is the basic unit of manorialism, which became the dominant economic system during parts of the European Middle Ages. It defined the relationship between the lord of the manor, and serfs and free peasants who worked various plots of land.

So the man who was the manorial hunter was the Hunter, and dealt with prey of the hunt (probably) but his dues were to the Lord of the Manor, and since he was a Hunter he was a freeholder, that is he was not a slave, or serf, because he had a bow & arrow set most likely and serfs and slaves were not allowed weapons -- might be more complex than this but this is my understanding of it 

by Susan Smith G2G6 Pilot (591k points)
Thank you Susan.  Guns were in use a century earlier, so I wouldn't assume bow and arrow.  You have given me food for thought.

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