Is any Wikitree user in USA interested in migration of "Old Lutherans" between 1835 and 1855? [closed]

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The first Germans to migrate to Australia in any significant number were immigrants from Prussia. They were looking for greater religious freedom and known collectively as "Old Lutherans". Reference:

Many descendants of German families in Australia are related. I am following a personal interest to connect together Wikitree profiles. I have started to compile a new list in a free space page: Old Lutheran Emigrants to Australia. This list is based on a book originally written by Wilhelm Iwan in 1943. As an example, I have attached a profile that is cross-linked to the emigration list.

Many Old Lutherans migrated to USA. Does anyone in the US share my interest? 

WikiTree profile: Johanne Seelander
closed with the note: Question was asked to see if other Wikitree users in USA shared my interest.
in Genealogy Help by Steve Thomas G2G6 Mach 4 (49.4k points)
closed by Steve Thomas
Have me in mind here?  Very Interesting, but at present I have some big projects more than I can handle already.  Good luck.
Thanks Michael. I know you are working on other big projects. I was curious whether anyone else is comparing Wikitree profiles with German emigration lists.
I could possibly help you.  This is something that is very common in my own family.  I have many German/Prussian immigrants, some Catholic, but very many Lutheran who came here in the mid-1800s as ancestors.  I have not finished adding them all to my tree, but doing so will help with this I assume?  Let me know what I can do.  This is an area of interest to me.
I grew up in the Wisconsin Synod which is one of the many splinter groups of Old Lutherans in the US. I don't think any of my immigrant ancestors came here specifically because of the religious conflicts, though -- although my major brick wall (great-great-grandfather) did come from East Prussia, and I know next to nothing about him.....
Thanks Sarah, I would like to see who ancestors are. Can you enter profiles for them into Wikitree, or at least given some names and years of migration. Regards, Steve.

Thanks Rothko. There's quite possibly a common interest. A book I was looking for was published by the Trinity Lutheran Church of Freistadt, Mequon, WI. Coincidently my German ancestors came from the kreis of Freistadt in the Prussian province of Silesia. Can you tell me your great-great-grandfather's name?

I will do that for all of them shortly, hopefully later tonight. If not tonight, then tomorrow, simply because I am visiting my mother right now.

His obituary says he was from Neidenburg, Prussia -- looks like it's nowhere near Freistadt. Today it's part of Poland and the town is called Nidzica. It isn't clear whether "Neidenburg" refers to the general area of Kreis Neidenburg or the actual town of Neidenburg itself. His name was John Post ( ... but this is why he's my big brick wall: it's not necessarily the name he was born with. (Insert long story with family rumors here) He was born in 1856, married in 1880 (and I am confused about his wife for various reasons), and emigrated to Goodhue County, Minnesota in late 1883 with his wife and an infant son. Died in 1927. Death record states his father's name as "unknown" and his mother as "Anna Sismond" which is almost certainly some phonetic misspelling of something that probably starts with Sz.... He's buried at Grace Lutheran Cemetery in Goodhue. There was a fire at the church long ago that destroyed whatever records would have been relevant. I don't know much about the history of that particular church; my mother grew up going to Christ Lutheran in Zumbrota Mn.

Thanks Rothko. Ostpreussen is not very close to Freistadt. I was hoping to assist with family names emigrating around mid 1800s. 
I was using a list of Old Lutherans for reference and that list ended in 1854.

I  don't see what more I can do right now.
Please note, that I am that I am still curious.  I was looking for records 100 km East of 
Neidenburg 2 years ago. I don't like a question unanswered and will keep this question in the back of my mind.

Hi Steve,

I got a couple of folks added, Walentyn Gacek and Leonhard Schar. Will keep working on this.  Thanks,


Hi Sarah,

Thanks for adding the profiles. I'm very interested, but haven't found a way to help you right now. 
From my, Australian, perspective the Old Lutherans emigrated in a wave. Earliest emigrants went to Russia and North America from Prussian province of Pomerania. The migration wave to Australia peaked around 1840 with many people from Klemzig and Kay in the Province of Brandenburg and most of the rest from a small region of around 2,000 square kilometres.
After the initial peak of Old Lutheran migrants the numbers dropped off. In my family there was a strong element of family reunion. Parents that stayed behind migrated later to join their children, or children  who had stayed decided to move with their own new families.
I have no idea of the connection, but Walentyn Gacek, lived only 100 km North-East of the region I am very interested in.
I am not an expert in history. I was curious whether my comments are similar to the perspective from USA.


Actually, I've been curious as to what attracted Germans to Australia rather than the US as it's so much further away.

Australia was not the first the first choice for a large group of “Old Lutherans” who wanted to leave Prussia.

Pastor Ludwig Christian Kavel was determined to help his loyal parishioners emigrate from Brandenburg. Pastor Kavel travelled to Hamburg to seek financial assistance to travel to Russia or America. He did not find assistance there but was advised to go to London to meet a merchant, George Fife Angas who might be able to assist.

Angas was a pious Baptist, a "Dissenter," who was sympathetic to the cause of the Prussians. Angas was also a manufacturer and merchant with worldwide connections. At the time he was negotiating with one of the directors of the South Australian Company with a view to establishing in Australia a refuge for Dissenters. Angas considered the Prussians to be honest and industrious and would be excellent settlers in the new colony of South Australia. He was able to arrange financial support and sent his personal assistant to Brandenburg to help make arrangements.

Kavel’s was not the first group of Germans to Australia, but the number of them allowed them to establish German settlements in South Australia. Later groups of emigrants had different motivations and migrated to all parts of Australia.

that is FASCINATING!! wow, thanks for sharing that!
Hi, not that I need help. I'm hoping it will be of help to you once I get all my family members loaded ;)

So far I've completed everyone on my maternal grandmother's side. Whew. Now I'm working on my maternal grandfather's side. It's a process. Not sure how to let you know who matches the formula you're after. Some aren't immigrants -- they are the parents of the immigrants. In some cases I've been able to go back 2 generations prior to the immigrant, but with very little information on those people. I also have a couple of Prussian Catholics in the mix and some Norwegians on my grandfather's side. You probably aren't concerned with them, even if they were Lutherans. So, it's a hodge-podge.

Your notes on Angas are intriguing, especially since I have one German immigrant who boarded at Liverpool....

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