I would like some help finding my grandmother's birth records

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I would like some help, please. My grandmother, Jamesina (Queenie) Hateley, was born in 1888 - 26 January, at Apsley, her mothers name is Ann Salina Hateley. We believe her Father's name may have been Fitzpatrick, but she also went as Hateley. I can find no birth records, I am very interested to know if I have Irish blood lines, from this man of mystery. Thanks in advance
in Genealogy Help by Phillip Butters G2G Crew (850 points)
There is an Apsley in Australia, South Africa and England.
My mother's birth Certificate  (Register book notation) gives her mother's birth place as Apsley SA (there is no such place) I suspect it is Apsley Victoria as this is within reasonable distance from her mothers family area,north of Portland Vic. a family tree book by the Hateley family says Heywood. I suspect Grandmother was illegitimate, they may have taken a little holiday for the birth event.
Apsley SA would be South Africa perhaps?
Wow South Africa, that's a wild card, I would not have thought my grandmother would have any South African affiliation, but she doesn't appear in Victorian records as far as I can find. Wowie and the other Apsleys in Australia (NSW and Tas) seem to just be areas, but I guess they may have visited family somewhre and they seem to have rural leanings. Very curious.

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Hi Philip, you might like to upgrade your membership (free) by signing the honor code. Then you can start adding family, add parents, then grandparents and on up the tree. Always have at least one proper source per profile.

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by Marion Poole G2G Astronaut (1.2m points)

Is this her?

First name(s) Queenie

Last name Hateley

Sex Female

Marriage year 1910

Spouse's first name(s) Herbert William

Spouse's last name Phiilips

State Victoria

Country Australia

Record set Victoria Marriages 1836-1942

Registration number 180

Category Life Events (BDMs)

Subcategory Civil Marriage & Divorce

Collections from Australasia

© Findmypast

Maybe a spelling error?

Name: Tomasina Hateley
Birth Date: Abt 1888
Birth Place: Heywood, Victoria
Registration Year: 1888
Registration Place: Victoria, Australia
Father: U Hateley
Mother: Ann Hateley
Registration Number: 3717

Source Information

Ancestry.com. Australia, Birth Index, 1788-1922 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2010.

Name: Ann Selina Alfrida Hately
Birth Date: 3 May 1862
Birth Place: Mount Gambier
Registration Place: Grey, South Australia, Australia
Father: Alfred James Hately
Mother: Mary Ann Letitia Preece
Page Number: 410
Volume Number: 24

Source Information

Ancestry.com. Australia, Birth Index, 1788-1922 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2010.

Yes this is my Grandmother.

She was born "Jamesina "she went by "Queenie" and it appears even on official documents.

She was born 4 years before the date of her mother's marriage to Andrew Kennan McCracken, her mother's maiden name was Ann Selina Hateleley .  We have Queenie's oldest daughter's record of birth,Queenie's maiden name is listed as Fitzpatrick on subsequent birth certificates of later children her maiden name is listed as Hateley. I am hoping to find her birth certificate to see if her father is mentioned. We have grown up believing we had Scottish blood and now we believe it may be Irish, I can  find no record of birth, was it not uncommon to to not register birth and could one get through life without record of birth record / certificate ? Is adoption in 1800's a possible further reason  for a birth certificate to become hard to find ? Sorry for pressing on I don't want to wear out my welcome with this wonderful facility, but this is quite vital to my search for my heritage.
If you, as Marion suggested, upgrade your membership, you could begin building what you know of your ancestors, and once you have something from which to start, you could ask for help from the Adoption Angels.

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