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The manager of this unsourced profile has been silent for over four years.

The birth registration is Joe West Hunt, Howden 9d/88 March 1879. Mother's maiden name unlisted.

So he was the grandson of Thomas Hunt & Hannah, (not son) rather the son of one of there daughters, but which daughter - likely, Anne, Jane or possibly another.

No further clues I'm afraid

What is the correct way to edit this profile?

WikiTree profile: Joseph Hunt
in WikiTree Help by Anonymous Woody G2G6 Mach 2 (22.4k points)
There's nothing extra at The Genealogist and FindMyPast either.

I would add all the sources to the profile, mark the parents as non-biological and put an obvious note on the profile that he is the grandson. The birth record needs to be checked.

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Create a == Research Notes == section.  Explain in there with wiki tree IDs and names about the confusion.
by Linda Peterson G2G6 Pilot (531k points)
I would also do the same on the grandfathers profile with the child's Wikitree ID and name so nothing is lost.

If he was the son of a daughter, was he born prior she married, so he has the Hunt name?  That would explain the confusion

1881 census shows him listed as their son, so possibly he was bringing him up and listed him as son, if you have some other source showing him as grandson.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27B-SFFL

Birth registration & 1891 Census confirm he is the Grandson. Research notes, leaving his profile as son, do not in my opinion reflect the true situation.

Perhaps create a new unknown daughter?
If you have Birth Registration, then that should be added to the profile, as well as the other census information.  Does the Birth information say who the mother or father is?  If not, then yes, you could create an unknown daughter, who is linked properly to 'her' father and mother, as well as to 'her son', with Research Notes, being added to all profiles, at least until there is complete documentation.  Since the 1881 census shows him as their son, not grandson, an explanation needs to be kept in both grandparents and his profile to explain that it is in error.  Unfortunately, it doesn't look like a change can be made to the family search citation.  I don't know if an image can be checked to see if it is correctly stated on the image and just not indexed correctly.
Thanks Traci
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Need to look at the whole family as there may be clues in the census and other records.
by Hilary Gadsby G2G6 Pilot (181k points)
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I just had a quick look on Findmypast's Yorkshire Baptisms  database but there was no entry for Joe unfortunately. Thomas and Hannah would probably have been too old to have been his parents. 

Of potential interest, there is a tree on Ancestry that has a date of birth for Joe (29 Jan 1879), so do they have the birth certificate? (maybe it's worth contacting the tree owner). They have his parents as William Hunt and Sarah Jane Lodge – I wonder why? Joe was living with Thomas and Hannah in 1891. Where did he go after that?

Unless you are happy to splash out on his birth certificate (or can get a copy from someone else), I think I'd explain in the research notes who you think his mother and grandparents might have been. 

I'm not sure if it's a good idea to create a profile for an 'unknown' daughter – does anyone know what the policy is on that?

by Katie Fuller G2G6 Mach 2 (23.5k points)
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Others have made sensible comments about adding a research notes section and documenting the fact that the matching GRO birth registration says he was illegitimate, there is no matching baptism and the 1891 census lists him as grandson so he was clearly being raised by his grandparents and was the child of one of their daughters.
The only way to definitively identify his mother would be to purchase the birth certificate from the GRO.

Be very careful working on profiles for this wider family. It looks like the family group was created from a GEDCOM import or copied from FamilySearch or Ancestry and there are errors in the family. For example, Ann Jane Hunt was listed with a husband Edward Law when he married someone completely different. I have fixed that in FamilySearch and WikiTree.
by Ray Hawkes G2G6 Mach 5 (51.7k points)
Thank you. I have already found errors in the wider family, whilst trying to source the profile for Joe/Joseph, which I had corrected but not Ann Jane's marriage. Who was William Patchett, any ideas?

The Annie Jane Hunt who married William Patchett was a completely different person. You can find her here in FamilySearch.

I cannot find any record of Ann Jane daughter of Thomas and Hannah after 1871. She was the only daughter of theirs of the right age to have a son in 1879 but there is no record of her in the 1881 census. There is no clearly matching death record so maybe she was sent away somewhere.

I have reviewed and updated all of the family of Thomas Hunt and Hannah Chafer in FamilySearch including all hints and suggestions so the information should be a lot more trustworthy now.

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