Nicola Sanger trying to find my family tree

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I really want to find out who I am related to on my Sanger side. My grandfather was James Sanger, Sr born in London -- probably in the early 1910s or 1920s. He had a brother Frederick who moved to America. My Grandad and Great Uncle Fred never spoke after Uncle Fred got involved with the gangster scene in London, My Grandad served in WW2.

This is as far as I have got, my dad has Alzheimers now so can't help.

Is there anyone out there who knows us?
WikiTree profile: Nicola Sanger
in Genealogy Help by Nicola Sanger G2G Crew (380 points)
edited by Julie Ricketts
I hope you find what you are looking for!
Have you tried a DNA test? If Fred had any children or grandchildren who have tested, they should show up on your match list. Ancestry is the best to start because they have the most tests and trees that you can use to piece together.
Hi, Nicola --

I edited your post to remove your father's name & birth year. As Michel mentioned below, we can't discuss living people here in the forum. :-)

Having your grandfather's and great uncle's names and estimated birth dates and locations will help.

I also added a couple more tags to bring some more people in to help you look for records.

Good luck with your research!
Thank you, yes I'm thinking about this now, didn't know if it would be that useful.
Thank you very much for your help.

Nicola --

I hope you'll take Hilary's advice below. Our England project has a lot of generous volunteers who may be able to help, and their Orphan Trail is a fantastic way to learn how to research.

Best of luck!

4 Answers

+8 votes
Best answer

Hey Nicola,

Welcome to G2G. The best thing to do is to add the basics here at WikiTree. Note that we can never discuss living people, so please remove your father's name from your post. This website is open for the whole world to see. The name of your grandfather should be the clue to add.

If you upgrade for free to Family member you can start adding profiles. You can then add all the information you know about your grandfather in the profile.

We are all volunteers here, and can only work on public documents and non living people. It might be wise to consult a professional genealogist in the country of your search. They can help you better for recent events.

by Michel Vorenhout G2G6 Pilot (266k points)
selected by Cheryl Hess
+14 votes

Start adding what you know and sign up on Free to access websites.

The England Project has an Orphan Trail which may be helpful for you to sign up for as well.

Take your time, keep track of sources, and ask questions. Check  for tips.

I have posted information about how to upgrade which you'll need to do so you can start building your tree.

One of my relatives married a SANGER so we may have a connection somewhere.

by Hilary Gadsby G2G6 Pilot (263k points)
+12 votes

I think this is your grandparent's marriage in 1933:

Name: James R R Sanger

Event Type: Marriage Registration

Event Place: Lewisham, London, England

Registration District: Lewisham

County: London

Registration Year: 1933

Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun

Affiliate Line Number: 137

Volume: 1D

Spouse Name (available after 1911): Rolf

Possible Spouse:

Ellen A Rolf

Source: "England and Wales Marriage Registration Index, 1837-2005," database, FamilySearch ( : 8 October 2014), James R R Sanger and null, 1933; from "England & Wales Marriages, 1837-2005," database, findmypast ( : 2012); citing 1933, quarter 2, vol. 1D, p. 2051, Lewisham, London, England, General Register Office, Southport, England.

Birth registration for your grandfather in 1911:


GRO Reference: 1911  J Quarter in CAMBERWELL  Volume 01D  Page 858

Source: GRO Online Index

Birth registration for your grandfather's brother in 1915:

SANGER, FREDERICK  CHARLES  Mother's Maiden Surname: FINCH  

GRO Reference: 1915  J Quarter in CAMBERWELL  Volume 01D  Page 1646

Source: GRO Online Index

Your great-grandparent's marriage in 1910:

Name: James Richard Sanger

Event Type: Marriage

Event Date: 25 Dec 1910

Event Place: Walworth, Surrey, England, United Kingdom

Age: 21

Marital Status: Single

Birth Year (Estimated): 1889

Father's Name: James Richard Sanger

Spouse's Name: Mabel Amelia Finch

Spouse's Gender: Female

Spouse's Age: 18

Spouse's Marital Status: Single

Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated): 1892

Spouse's Father's Name: Robert Finch

Source: "England, Surrey Parish Registers, 1536-1992," database, FamilySearch ( : 16 March 2018), James Richard Sanger and Mabel Amelia Finch, 25 Dec 1910; citing Marriage, , London Metropolitan Archives, England; FHL microfilm 291,751.

by Paul Masini G2G6 Pilot (284k points)
+8 votes
I just dropped by to welcome you to Wikitree. So glad that you are part of us. You have been given excellent advice, and even some great hints on your question.

It would be great to see you upgrade to a family membership, and you have also been given instructions on how to accomplish that.

I hope you enjoy it here as much as I do.
by Cheryl Hess G2G Astronaut (1.7m points)

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