If Jeremiah Morphett sailed on Trusty in 1837 arriving in Australia 1838 how could he die in 1837 in South Australia?

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WikiTree profile: Jeremiah Morphett
in Genealogy Help by Larry Peters G2G Rookie (190 points)

 - There could be a Link from = https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Morphett = - and also - = https://www.wikitree.com/genealogy/Morphett-Descendants-207 = -   On 20 March 1836, Morphett sailed for South Australia in the Cygnet, which arrived at Kangaroo Island on 11 September 1836. On 5 November 1836, the Cygnet arrived at Holdfast Bay. = - - -

There were quite a few different Morphett families who emigrated to South Australia.  I think from something I've seen some of them may be related as they originate from the same area in Kent but exactly how may not be known.
I am the PM and started reviewing this profile yesterday after finalising a merger of 2 profiles for his son Jeremiah. I agree that the information is inconsistent and have removed the death location from this profile pending further work and modified the BIO to say it is in need of further work and why. Unfortunately when I re-organised my study during the Covid-19 lockdown, I have misplaced my Morphett files and may have to start work on Jeremiah from scratch again albeit with help from the answers below.

By the way, it would be useful if WikiTree notified the PM that a question has been asked about one of their profiles on G2G. I don't look at G2G every day and was lucky to stumble on the question.

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john.a

John,

Thanks for the tip about adding a G2G question to my favourites, I was wondering how to do that.

My comment about being informed by email of a question relating to one of my profiles is that I have stopped the daily emails because there are so many changes every day and very few if any relate to my family. I do get the weekly email which shows changes to the profiles on my watchlist but it may not arrive for a week after the post and it maybe several weeks later before I look at it particularly when we are travelling. I would more quickly look at an email with a specific question.

Geoff

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The PM probably meant to mark death as after 1837.
by Marion Poole G2G Astronaut (1.2m points)
Actually I doubt that. I have a record that says he died 1837 in England - so he never sailed to Australia.
Then who is listed on the shipping records?
I was answering based on what was on the profile, there is no source for him dying in England. Is it possible there are 2 Jeremiah’s and which one was on the Trusty?

There is a Jeremiah Morphett and his wife Anne (and possibly children) and a Jeremiah Morphett Jnr (probably their son) and wife Mary who arrived in Adelaide 15 May 1838 on the ship Trusty.  See transcription here

There is a Jeremiah Morphett whose death is recorded in September quarter 1837 in Tenterden district, Kent according to FreeBMD but presumably this is a different person to the two men who emigrated?

Jeremiah Morphett (Jul-1783-Aug-1837) had wife Anne Colegate. They had a son Jeremiah Morphett (Aug-1816-Apr-1893) who married Mary Dawes. WikiTree says they ALL sailed on Trusty from UK to Oz (Dec-1837-May-1838). I think Jeremiah Sr died in UK before they sailed.
May be a different person. But also may be the same one. There is an England Deaths and Burials, 1538-1991 entry for Jeremiah Morphett born 1783 and buried Aug 5 1837 at Woodchurch, Kent.
You might be right Larry, that Jeremiah Morphett the elder did die before the voyage, and perhaps it was his widow Ann who emigrated with some of the younger children, as well as Jeremiah Morphett, Jnr and his wife.

FreeReg has some of the church records from Tenterden and Woodchurch in Kent, and the burial of Jeremiah Morphett on 5 Aug 1837 at Woodchurch, states he was aged 54 and that fits with the baptism of a Jeremiah Morphett at Tenterden on 13 Aug 1783 the son of another Jeremiah Morphett and his wife Elizabeth.

He married Ann Colgate or Colegate at Ashford Kent 17 Oct 1814 and had quite a number of children including Jeremiah Morphett, baptised at Woodchurch 19 Oct 1817.  Then that Jeremiah married Mary Daw at Warehorne, Kent 21 Nov 1837 just before they left to come to South Australia.
Ann Morphett, Jeremiah's widow, died in South Australia in 1869, although her death was not registered. Although even if it was, death certificates in SA at that time contained little more than the information found in the index anyway.

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/196726501?searchTerm=%22jeremiah%20morphett%22

I can't find a burial for her. Genealogy SA has transcribed the burial registers for the Methodist and Primitive Methodist cemeteries at Angle Vale and there is no one named Morphett there. I can only assume Ann's name was not recorded on the register, which was not uncommon in those days.
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- Try FamSearch - = https://www.familysearch.org/tree/pedigree/landscape/L4LX-HMQ = - Died in Kent ! - - cheers

edit - and 3 wives for - = https://www.familysearch.org/tree/pedigree/landscape/LZVL-KST = -
by John Andrewartha G2G6 Mach 6 (69.6k points)
edited by John Andrewartha
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The passenger lists to South Australia from that era did not name the passengers who travelled in steerage, i.e. assisted passengers. These passenger lists that can be seen online, such as the Bound for South Australia site, are reconstructed from other records, including:

State Library of South Australia, Adelaide. Register of emigrant labourers applying for a free passage to South Australia, 1836-1841. A copy of Colonial Office Records held in the Public Record Office, London, England. 

These applications for assisted passage have the name of the head of the household, usually a man, that person's occupation and location at the time of application, and they include the numbers of male and female passengers travelling on that application, and their ages. There will be a date on that application and it needs to be checked in this case, to confirm that the date of application is earlier than the date of Jeremiah's burial in Kent. There may also be some indication on the page that only one person travelled on that application, although I think that is unlikely.

It should be pointed out that this was a very large body of work, and in some cases where limited other records are available, errors have been made. These passenger lists were also reconstructed at a time when there was very limited information available online and in electronic databases. The person who performed a great deal of this work is now deceased, so there is no way of knowing her sources. However in the case of Jeremiah Morphett, the Genealogy SA online database includes an application and embarkation number, so that record for the reconstructed passenger list did come from the assisted passage applications above. 


 

by Leandra Ford G2G6 Pilot (119k points)

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