Comments on Johann Adam Shalley

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On 8 Nov 2020 Laurie Angel wrote on Shalley-11:

There are at least 2 sets of Shalley / Schally (various other spellings) that need to be methodically merged. The Schally branch was created in May 2020, the Shalley branch in 2010 which has extensive DNA matches and has been here for 10 years longer than the Schally branch. I am going to do pending merges for someone else that is more versed to tackle - not sure how to effectively pick and chose the elements to be in the final merged result.

WikiTree profile: Johann Shalley
in Genealogy Help by Laurie Angel G2G5 (5.6k points)
When you propose merges make sure they go into the right direction: Any LNAB of "Shalley" before arrival in America is highly suspect and absolutely not German but an Anglicized version. "Sh" would be "Sch" in German. Also, the name ending on "-y" is not German. Transcriptions of some of the Ancestry records show the spelling as "Schalli" which would be more like it.
I am a relative newbie on wikitree I am reaching out because I am sure someone has greater knowledge on this family and greater wikitree skills.  I have only done one simple merge.  Same situation as this - I had created a profile for someone in my line and due to a variance in spelling I had not seen that a profile had already been set up.

I appreciate the history lesson on the Shally name, but wonder the best way to recognize all the varients.  Names do change and often people in the same families will change the spelling of their names.  As simple a name as mine, Angel, my ggrandfather had changed it from Angle around 1900.  So I consider my family name Angle though my German immigrant was Engel or Engle at the time.  Early in the English / Spanish and French colonies / territories (in early Louisiana Territory) entire names were recast even in official documents to reflect standards for the country / language.

My Marie/a Charlotte Shally married my immigrant Johan Wendel Engel in Freisham, Plafz, Germany.  

I am not sure the best way to proceed and I only have so much information on my Shally line.  I could use some very serious handholding or a wikitree expert to correct this.  There are likely other bits and pieces of the Shally families in wikitree.  I could use some direction.
What does LNAB stand for?

LNAB = WikiTree abbreviation for Last Name At Birth.

Most people here advocate using the names found in the primary documents i.e. birth or baptismal registers for the LNAB. To accommodate name changes such as happened after emigration we use the Current Last Name (CLN) or the Other Last Name (OLN) if there are several variants. Finding the correct German spelling is important because it would be pretty much impossible to find any German records with the Anglicized version.

On the profile for Johann Ludwig Shalley is a transcript from an Ancestry microfilm giving the name Schalli. Besides Ancestry records for which you would need a subscription there would be Archion for protestant church records, unfortunately also not free.

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Hi Johann - I feel what you're proposing is okay as long as you follow Helmut's excellent advice above. The first person who proposes a merge of 2 profiles needs to wait up to 30 days for the profile manager of the other person to agree or disagree with your proposal. If they agree, as they do so, they are the WT editor who decides which information to keep in the merged profile. You and the other person are then co-managers of the "new" profile. As long as the LNAB is done correctly, all the other edits can always be polished/corrected later by using the audit trail.

Hope this helps. It looks like you/we have our work cut out for us on these lines!
by Susan Keil G2G6 Mach 5 (58.8k points)
Thank you Susan,

Thank you for the protocol help.  

I will wait the 30 days for the profile managers of both Johann Adam Shalleys / Schally to act.  One of these profiles has numerous profile managers.  It will be good to get this cleaned up.    

The profile was for Johann - I am Laurie Angel, his 6th ggrandchild.

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